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Post by smileyjamie on Feb 4, 2012 1:53:38 GMT -5
I am pretty positive I have a leak, and I was just looking for stories/experiences from you.
Thank you so much
p.s. I fly back to California from Alaska and see my surgeon next Friday (2/10)
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Post by Fade2Pink on Feb 4, 2012 2:31:06 GMT -5
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Post by kyal on Feb 4, 2012 5:18:50 GMT -5
Hi Jamie,
I think I sorta shared a little with you in another thread but happy to elaborate on my experience with a leak.
In 2006 I had my crap band to sleeve revision and was told I would be in hospital for 4 days. The procedure was planned as Laparoscopic but when I awoke in such great pain I knew he had opened me up. I'd had Laparoscopic surgery before and knew what the pain level was like.
It turns out the surgeon had stapled the sizing bougie into my stomach and was unable to get it out during the Laparoscopic procedure so had to open me up to remove it. God knows what damage he done to get the thing out but my recovery seemed to be going to plan for an open procedure. It was about a week after surgery and I was due to have drains removed the next day and fly home shortly after, thats when the leak was detected.
Anyway I was at the jello stage when my Surgeon came to visit. He checked my drain and asked what I had for breakfast, i told him green jello. It was coming out of my stomach and making its way into my drainage bag. At that point I was told nil by mouth and put back onto IV fluids only. I was sent for a CT scan and the plan was to wait it out and see if it would seal it self off without further intervention. My surgeon told me thats the best approach as opening back up and trying to repair it can make the problem worse.
I had read stories about people in hospital for months with leaks and ultimately dying on OH so I was obviously freaking out pretty hard at that stage and the second lot of buyers remorse set in. I hit the morphine button and checked out pretty much after that. I was left 10 days with no nutrition, no TPN, only IV fluids and the occasional ice chip to suck on. I was on a heap of antibiotics to ensure I didn't develop an infection and to fight the one at my wound site. After 10 days I had to drink some horrible blue dye to see if it came out the drain and it seemed not to. I was sent for another CT and everything looked ok so I was started back on some oral fluids and progressed to mushy stuff before leaving hospital about a week after the leak sealed up. I was in hospital a total of 28 days, interstate, no family and only one friend who lived miles away. I really did get used to the afternoon morphine vacation while watching Oprah in the end but I was happy to leave.
I was sent home with a drain in place for a further 10 days. I had another CT scan after those 10 days and it was cleared for my GP to remove it. The tube had virtually made its way out anyway but it hurt like hell for the 10 short seconds he removed what was left inside of me. From then I started to go on with my life, had already lost a stack of weight from being in hospital on NIL for god knows how long and thought it was all behind me.
How very wrong I way. I was now at least 6 weeks post op, maybe 7 and I developed a raging infection and crippling abdominal pain. I saw my GP, he called my Surgeon, I was back on antibiotics. Two days later my GP sent me to hospital, being back in my home state I have no surgical coverage so was sent to the local public hospital, these are usually teaching hospitals, government funded, free and totally overcrowded. I was assessed in the ER, they had no idea, I was sent to a ward, given no pain relieve or anything to help me sleep so I cracked it and made a huge scene at about 3am until they found a doctor to give me some morphine for the pain. They did offer to shove acetaminophen up my arse but I declined, the private hospitals have an IV version but the public hospitals are too tight to buy it. I was seen the next day by a consultant, thank god I thought a doctor who had finished school, well he had no idea what was wrong either. The plan was to keep my on antibiotics and leave me and thats what they did. By lunch time I had had enough and signed out AMA. I called my surgeon interstate and he gave me the name of a local surgeon to see, I made an urgent appointment with him on the way home in a cab and then went to my local GP who gave me drugs for the pain and oral antibiotics until the next day.
Next day I drove to one of the private hospitals to see this Dr. He took one look at my abdomen and told me an abscess has formed in the track from the drainage tube and said it would need to be operated on. He sent me to radiology for an ultrasound to confirm this and I saw him again that afternoon. He confirmed the abscess and told me to drive to another hospital immediately that was closer to his home and where he does most of his surgeries, being a private hospital I was admitted immediately. He operated on me that night about 9pm to drain the abscess which had already started to leak puss and clean out that track. After that the infection cleared but I was on antibiotics for another few weeks and the wound was left open and had to be packed with material every second day to let it heal from the inside out to avoid another abscess.
I was first operated on for the revision about the 5th of January and I think the ordeal was probably over by early June. So the best part of 5 months. And if I can find a surgeon to re sleeve me and do the DS I will happily take the risk of it happening all again.
The only advice I will give you is this. Don't get your self admitted to hospital if you can cared for safely at home. This can drag on for months and you don't want to be locked in a hospital room when you could be at home.. Secondly don't every go to a local hospital who has no idea what you have had done. If you get so sick that you need hospitalisation, drug your self up and max your credit card to get back to your DS surgeon if you can, I have since learned that chartering a small jet isn't all that expensive if your on deaths door. Avoid unknowledgeable medical personnel at all costs.
Its shitty and it sucks but you have a good DS surgeon. He will have done a good job inside of you despite the leak so when this is all a distant memory you have loads of weight loss and happiness to look forward to. I was butchered and didn't even get that.
Stay well and feel free to message me any time if you want to.
Kyal
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Post by calendargirl on Feb 4, 2012 9:55:00 GMT -5
Wow, Kyal, you've been through it! My heart goes out to you. So glad you're fighting the unknowledgable ones.
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Post by sherbearmama on Feb 4, 2012 10:58:20 GMT -5
Hi Jamie, I think I sorta shared a little with you in another thread but happy to elaborate on my experience with a leak. In 2006 I had my crap band to sleeve revision and was told I would be in hospital for 4 days. The procedure was planned as Laparoscopic but when I awoke in such great pain I knew he had opened me up. I'd had Laparoscopic surgery before and knew what the pain level was like. It turns out the surgeon had stapled the sizing bougie into my stomach and was unable to get it out during the Laparoscopic procedure so had to open me up to remove it. God knows what damage he done to get the thing out but my recovery seemed to be going to plan for an open procedure. It was about a week after surgery and I was due to have drains removed the next day and fly home shortly after, thats when the leak was detected. Anyway I was at the jello stage when my Surgeon came to visit. He checked my drain and asked what I had for breakfast, i told him green jello. It was coming out of my stomach and making its way into my drainage bag. At that point I was told nil by mouth and put back onto IV fluids only. I was sent for a CT scan and the plan was to wait it out and see if it would seal it self off without further intervention. My surgeon told me thats the best approach as opening back up and trying to repair it can make the problem worse. I had read stories about people in hospital for months with leaks and ultimately dying on OH so I was obviously freaking out pretty hard at that stage and the second lot of buyers remorse set in. I hit the morphine button and checked out pretty much after that. I was left 10 days with no nutrition, no TPN, only IV fluids and the occasional ice chip to suck on. I was on a heap of antibiotics to ensure I didn't develop an infection and to fight the one at my wound site. After 10 days I had to drink some horrible blue dye to see if it came out the drain and it seemed not to. I was sent for another CT and everything looked ok so I was started back on some oral fluids and progressed to mushy stuff before leaving hospital about a week after the leak sealed up. I was in hospital a total of 28 days, interstate, no family and only one friend who lived miles away. I really did get used to the afternoon morphine vacation while watching Oprah in the end but I was happy to leave. I was sent home with a drain in place for a further 10 days. I had another CT scan after those 10 days and it was cleared for my GP to remove it. The tube had virtually made its way out anyway but it hurt like hell for the 10 short seconds he removed what was left inside of me. From then I started to go on with my life, had already lost a stack of weight from being in hospital on NIL for god knows how long and thought it was all behind me. How very wrong I way. I was now at least 6 weeks post op, maybe 7 and I developed a raging infection and crippling abdominal pain. I saw my GP, he called my Surgeon, I was back on antibiotics. Two days later my GP sent me to hospital, being back in my home state I have no surgical coverage so was sent to the local public hospital, these are usually teaching hospitals, government funded, free and totally overcrowded. I was assessed in the ER, they had no idea, I was sent to a ward, given no pain relieve or anything to help me sleep so I cracked it and made a huge scene at about 3am until they found a doctor to give me some morphine for the pain. They did offer to shove acetaminophen up my arse but I declined, the private hospitals have an IV version but the public hospitals are too tight to buy it. I was seen the next day by a consultant, thank god I thought a doctor who had finished school, well he had no idea what was wrong either. The plan was to keep my on antibiotics and leave me and thats what they did. By lunch time I had had enough and signed out AMA. I called my surgeon interstate and he gave me the name of a local surgeon to see, I made an urgent appointment with him on the way home in a cab and then went to my local GP who gave me drugs for the pain and oral antibiotics until the next day. Next day I drove to one of the private hospitals to see this Dr. He took one look at my abdomen and told me an abscess has formed in the track from the drainage tube and said it would need to be operated on. He sent me to radiology for an ultrasound to confirm this and I saw him again that afternoon. He confirmed the abscess and told me to drive to another hospital immediately that was closer to his home and where he does most of his surgeries, being a private hospital I was admitted immediately. He operated on me that night about 9pm to drain the abscess which had already started to leak puss and clean out that track. After that the infection cleared but I was on antibiotics for another few weeks and the wound was left open and had to be packed with material every second day to let it heal from the inside out to avoid another abscess. I was first operated on for the revision about the 5th of January and I think the ordeal was probably over by early June. So the best part of 5 months. And if I can find a surgeon to re sleeve me and do the DS I will happily take the risk of it happening all again. The only advice I will give you is this. Don't get your self admitted to hospital if you can cared for safely at home. This can drag on for months and you don't want to be locked in a hospital room when you could be at home.. Secondly don't every go to a local hospital who has no idea what you have had done. If you get so sick that you need hospitalisation, drug your self up and max your credit card to get back to your DS surgeon if you can, I have since learned that chartering a small jet isn't all that expensive if your on deaths door. Avoid unknowledgeable medical personnel at all costs. Its shitty and it sucks but you have a good DS surgeon. He will have done a good job inside of you despite the leak so when this is all a distant memory you have loads of weight loss and happiness to look forward to. I was butchered and didn't even get that. Stay well and feel free to message me any time if you want to. Kyal Kyal! I can't believe what you had to go through in your journey!!!! Maybe this is just a California attitude, but did you sue the pants off of the surgeon who revised you from the band to the sleeve? That sounds like obvious malpractice. I have an incredible amount of respect for you and for making the very courageous decision to revise once again to the DS. I'd be scared shittless but finding a great revision surgeon is your best bet against having the same complications you had last time. I *exalt* you for your courage and strength! Sheri |
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Post by kyal on Feb 4, 2012 11:51:14 GMT -5
Maybe this is just a California attitude, but did you sue the pants off of the surgeon who revised you from the band to the sleeve? Sheri If I could find a reputable weight loss surgeon who would back up that stapling a bougie into a patients stomach is malpractice I would. Problem is these shit heads all seem to back each other up and none of the opinions I have sort will go so far as to say "Hey that sounds like malpractice". They just give you that look or the slight shake of the head which tells you that they are disgusted without actually being explicit and telling you. To lodge a claim here you need verification from other expert opinions that it was in fact malpractice. Part of me being the nice person I am thinks that if I can staple my finger stapling paper documents it must at least be a possibility to make that same error inside some ones abdominal cavity during a laparoscopic procedure, its not a risk I was made aware of though. I always said I would only sue for stupid mistakes lie leaving a pair of forceps in my body which puncture a kidney requiring a transplant, that is negligent, its hard for me to decide if what he did was or not. He also promised the second part of the DS if it was required. When I flew back to see him about it (yes I was dumb enough to go back to him) he said he no longer operates on interstate patients as he has had to many complications with them and being so far away from home it makes aftercare difficult. He told me he stopped after he had a lady almost bleed out on the table after her spleen exploded, makes me wonder what he did to make it explode. Anyway lets let Jamie have her thread back, its not about me. She's the one sick at the moment and she deserves all the attention she can get, shes got to be miserable and bordering on terrified.  |
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Post by sherbearmama on Feb 4, 2012 13:00:24 GMT -5
Kyal--I agree with you--this is Jamie's thread. Thanks for the dialogue though.
Jamie, Keep me in mind when you are here. You can call or text any time.
Sheri
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Post by zoetrope on Feb 4, 2012 13:05:02 GMT -5
Jamie:
WHY do you you think you have a leak? What kinds of symptoms are you having?
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Post by Girlrocker on Feb 4, 2012 13:23:53 GMT -5
Oh Jamie :-( So you are feeling better but do think it's a leak, you must be seeing something in your tube or feeling something to make you think that. Kyal's story is just epic, sad, a terrible thing to go through. But what she said is also why Dr. K had you stay put, he would never put you at risk. I can only hope that if it is a leak, you're improving. I sent you another message, for sure I'll meet you at Dr. K's office for your appointment on Friday, and we'll talk before then.
Gentle hugs.
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Post by hoosiermama on Feb 4, 2012 13:34:16 GMT -5
Kyal,
Have you reviewed your surgeon for posterity? Sounds like that guy needs a review and those that walk in your path need to know what they will be facing.
Jamie,
I don't have anything I can add other than to let you know I'm still praying for you. The insurance company put you through hell only for these problems to happen. I know complications occur but when it's you it has to be sooo very hard.
me
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Post by smileyjamie on Feb 4, 2012 16:35:49 GMT -5
Oh Jamie :-( So you are feeling better but do think it's a leak, you must be seeing something in your tube or feeling something to make you think that. Kyal's story is just epic, sad, a terrible thing to go through. But what she said is also why Dr. K had you stay put, he would never put you at risk. I can only hope that if it is a leak, you're improving. I sent you another message, for sure I'll meet you at Dr. K's office for your appointment on Friday, and we'll talk before then. Gentle hugs. There is the link to the thread I was feeling GREAT with DR. K, but with all of this........ sneaking up slowly, Maybe I was able to fly back home to Alaska too soon. But, that is so hard to judge, with a doctor/patient. It's a crap shoot when to let your patient leave your local care, ya know?  ?? |
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Post by smileyjamie on Feb 4, 2012 16:36:22 GMT -5
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Post by smileyjamie on Feb 4, 2012 16:43:21 GMT -5
Hi Jamie, I think I sorta shared a little with you in another thread but happy to elaborate on my experience with a leak. In 2006 I had my crap band to sleeve revision and was told I would be in hospital for 4 days. The procedure was planned as Laparoscopic but when I awoke in such great pain I knew he had opened me up. I'd had Laparoscopic surgery before and knew what the pain level was like. It turns out the surgeon had stapled the sizing bougie into my stomach and was unable to get it out during the Laparoscopic procedure so had to open me up to remove it. God knows what damage he done to get the thing out but my recovery seemed to be going to plan for an open procedure. It was about a week after surgery and I was due to have drains removed the next day and fly home shortly after, thats when the leak was detected. Anyway I was at the jello stage when my Surgeon came to visit. He checked my drain and asked what I had for breakfast, i told him green jello. It was coming out of my stomach and making its way into my drainage bag. At that point I was told nil by mouth and put back onto IV fluids only. I was sent for a CT scan and the plan was to wait it out and see if it would seal it self off without further intervention. My surgeon told me thats the best approach as opening back up and trying to repair it can make the problem worse. I had read stories about people in hospital for months with leaks and ultimately dying on OH so I was obviously freaking out pretty hard at that stage and the second lot of buyers remorse set in. I hit the morphine button and checked out pretty much after that. I was left 10 days with no nutrition, no TPN, only IV fluids and the occasional ice chip to suck on. I was on a heap of antibiotics to ensure I didn't develop an infection and to fight the one at my wound site. After 10 days I had to drink some horrible blue dye to see if it came out the drain and it seemed not to. I was sent for another CT and everything looked ok so I was started back on some oral fluids and progressed to mushy stuff before leaving hospital about a week after the leak sealed up. I was in hospital a total of 28 days, interstate, no family and only one friend who lived miles away. I really did get used to the afternoon morphine vacation while watching Oprah in the end but I was happy to leave. I was sent home with a drain in place for a further 10 days. I had another CT scan after those 10 days and it was cleared for my GP to remove it. The tube had virtually made its way out anyway but it hurt like hell for the 10 short seconds he removed what was left inside of me. From then I started to go on with my life, had already lost a stack of weight from being in hospital on NIL for god knows how long and thought it was all behind me. How very wrong I way. I was now at least 6 weeks post op, maybe 7 and I developed a raging infection and crippling abdominal pain. I saw my GP, he called my Surgeon, I was back on antibiotics. Two days later my GP sent me to hospital, being back in my home state I have no surgical coverage so was sent to the local public hospital, these are usually teaching hospitals, government funded, free and totally overcrowded. I was assessed in the ER, they had no idea, I was sent to a ward, given no pain relieve or anything to help me sleep so I cracked it and made a huge scene at about 3am until they found a doctor to give me some morphine for the pain. They did offer to shove acetaminophen up my arse but I declined, the private hospitals have an IV version but the public hospitals are too tight to buy it. I was seen the next day by a consultant, thank god I thought a doctor who had finished school, well he had no idea what was wrong either. The plan was to keep my on antibiotics and leave me and thats what they did. By lunch time I had had enough and signed out AMA. I called my surgeon interstate and he gave me the name of a local surgeon to see, I made an urgent appointment with him on the way home in a cab and then went to my local GP who gave me drugs for the pain and oral antibiotics until the next day. Next day I drove to one of the private hospitals to see this Dr. He took one look at my abdomen and told me an abscess has formed in the track from the drainage tube and said it would need to be operated on. He sent me to radiology for an ultrasound to confirm this and I saw him again that afternoon. He confirmed the abscess and told me to drive to another hospital immediately that was closer to his home and where he does most of his surgeries, being a private hospital I was admitted immediately. He operated on me that night about 9pm to drain the abscess which had already started to leak puss and clean out that track. After that the infection cleared but I was on antibiotics for another few weeks and the wound was left open and had to be packed with material every second day to let it heal from the inside out to avoid another abscess. I was first operated on for the revision about the 5th of January and I think the ordeal was probably over by early June. So the best part of 5 months. And if I can find a surgeon to re sleeve me and do the DS I will happily take the risk of it happening all again. The only advice I will give you is this. Don't get your self admitted to hospital if you can cared for safely at home. This can drag on for months and you don't want to be locked in a hospital room when you could be at home.. Secondly don't every go to a local hospital who has no idea what you have had done. If you get so sick that you need hospitalisation, drug your self up and max your credit card to get back to your DS surgeon if you can, I have since learned that chartering a small jet isn't all that expensive if your on deaths door. Avoid unknowledgeable medical personnel at all costs. Its shitty and it sucks but you have a good DS surgeon. He will have done a good job inside of you despite the leak so when this is all a distant memory you have loads of weight loss and happiness to look forward to. I was butchered and didn't even get that. Stay well and feel free to message me any time if you want to. Kyal Kyal, thank you so much for your time on the well written story of yours and the details involved, and yes, you did reply in my other thread. weightlosssurgery.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=talk&action=display&thread=1525&page=1I appreciate the insight. I honestly HOPE that it is not a leak, but, if it ends up being a leak, guess I should be as prepared as I can. |
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Post by smileyjamie on Feb 4, 2012 16:44:19 GMT -5
Kyal--I agree with you--this is Jamie's thread. Thanks for the dialogue though. Jamie, Keep me in mind when you are here. You can call or text any time. Sheri Thank you, Sheri. I have your # |
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Post by smileyjamie on Feb 4, 2012 16:45:22 GMT -5
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Post by zoetrope on Feb 4, 2012 16:47:56 GMT -5
Jamie:
Now that I read that, I'm very concerned.
Could you PLEASE think about hopping on the next flight that would get you there for a Monday appointment? Serious. Because, if this were to get a lot worse, you couldn't fly, and then you might be in a heapload of trouble where you are.
Honestly, I wouldn't fool around with this stuff. If something is wrong, the last thing you need is to be stuck where you are without experts to help you. Or to get too ill in order to fly yourself.
As nice as Dr. K is, he won't be able to fly to you, unless you happen to be related to Sam Walton. And even so, probably not, as he's got other patients scheduled for stuff.
I used airline miles to get myself to surgery and back, partially because they are flexible, unlike regular airline tickets.
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Post by kyal on Feb 4, 2012 17:37:39 GMT -5
Anyone is welcome to my story if it helps. The idea isn't to scare the shit out of you but to show you some one can go through hell and make it out the other side. Everyone is right however. Caution is to be advised. Food coming out of your drain is a dead giveaway that you have or have had a leak. Have you had any tests done locally? Do you have a PCP who can order tests? You probably need some blood work done, blood cultures and a CT with contrast. Email Dr K and if he has no objections get these done urgently. Being a fair distance from your Surgeon you need to take over and make sure you get done what needs doing. K |
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Post by smileyjamie on Feb 4, 2012 17:57:07 GMT -5
Anyone is welcome to my story if it helps. The idea isn't to scare the shit out of you but to show you some one can go through hell and make it out the other side. Everyone is right however. Caution is to be advised. Food coming out of your drain is a dead giveaway that you have or have had a leak. Have you had any tests done locally? Do you have a PCP who can order tests? You probably need some blood work done, blood cultures and a CT with contrast. Email Dr K and if he has no objections get these done urgently. Being a fair distance from your Surgeon you need to take over and make sure you get done what needs doing. K I had blood cultures done 1/21, when I was in the ER & it was confirmed that my incision was infected. Also, I did have 2 CT scans done, both with contrast 1/11 and 1/21. I have sent these down to Dr. K and confirmed that he does have both of the scans. |
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Post by zoetrope on Feb 4, 2012 17:58:19 GMT -5
I'm sorry, kyal, in my urgency to post to the Op, I didn't recognize your important post.
THANK YOU.
Thank you for that. A lotta stuff happens to people. Can happen to people under good care, but more often happens to people under not-so-good care.
It is important to recognize that when things start to go wrong, they can go REALLY, life-threateningly wrong fairly quickly.
I guess that's why I'm a bit worried about Jamie, who is in a very isolated situation.
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Post by baileymouse on Feb 4, 2012 20:18:03 GMT -5
Jamie, I am so sorry. Crap!
Have you talked to Maddie? She had RNY, revised to the DS, and wound up with a leak. She went through hell and back. She's renfairewench over on the other board. She's on my FB friends list if you want me to grab her for you.
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Post by zoetrope on Feb 4, 2012 21:50:48 GMT -5
Good idea, baileymouse!
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Post by smileyjamie on Feb 5, 2012 4:24:35 GMT -5
Jamie, I am so sorry. Crap! Have you talked to Maddie? She had RNY, revised to the DS, and wound up with a leak. She went through hell and back. She's renfairewench over on the other board. She's on my FB friends list if you want me to grab her for you. She has been on my mind to ask, but I was not sure how to get in touch with her. Send her on over, please & THANK YOU!!!!!! |
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Post by vervetomove on Feb 5, 2012 11:46:28 GMT -5
You have really been on my mind. I am worrying about you and the 10th seems so far away.
Does the drainage from your JP (Jackson Pratt) drain look like the protein drink? or is it more serous looking? How are the amounts of fluid?
Are you able to get all your fluids in?
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Post by smileyjamie on Feb 5, 2012 14:06:13 GMT -5
You have really been on my mind. I am worrying about you and the 10th seems so far away. Does the drainage from your JP (Jackson Pratt) drain look like the protein drink? or is it more serous looking? How are the amounts of fluid? Are you able to get all your fluids in? I get the majority of my fluids in. One day, GREAT!!!!!!! Over the minimum. And the next day it will be about 10 ounces shy. I am NPO too. Th JP drain fluid looks dark green... sometimes looks like cola syrup. The amount has decreased, but sometimes....... it can be alot more than I expect. I get on a plane Thursday nite, that is a few days from now. I will be in Dr. K's capable hands very, very soon!!!!!! |
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Post by Band to DS on Feb 5, 2012 14:14:25 GMT -5
Jamie,
I am so sorry that you've developed a leak. I hope it's something that will correct itself & you'll be on the road to full health soon. Please keep us updated on your situation.
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Post by smileyjamie on Feb 5, 2012 14:18:55 GMT -5
Jamie, I am so sorry that you've developed a leak. I hope it's something that will correct itself & you'll be on the road to full health soon. Please keep us updated on your situation. Shelli Thank you, Shelli. I will definately keep everyone updated, or someone will for me!!!!! |
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Post by vervetomove on Feb 5, 2012 16:21:45 GMT -5
You have really been on my mind. I am worrying about you and the 10th seems so far away. Does the drainage from your JP (Jackson Pratt) drain look like the protein drink? or is it more serous looking? How are the amounts of fluid? Are you able to get all your fluids in? I get the majority of my fluids in. One day, GREAT!!!!!!! Over the minimum. And the next day it will be about 10 ounces shy. Th JP drain fluid looks dark green... sometimes looks like cola syrup. The amount has decreased, but sometimes....... it can be alot more than I expect. I get on a plane Thursday nite, that is a few days from now. I will be in Dr. K's capable hands very, very soon!!!!!! I know you will be well taken care of. (((HUGS))) |
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Post by Girlrocker on Feb 5, 2012 16:36:14 GMT -5
Oh Jamie :-( So you are feeling better but do think it's a leak, you must be seeing something in your tube or feeling something to make you think that. Kyal's story is just epic, sad, a terrible thing to go through. But what she said is also why Dr. K had you stay put, he would never put you at risk. I can only hope that if it is a leak, you're improving. I sent you another message, for sure I'll meet you at Dr. K's office for your appointment on Friday, and we'll talk before then. Gentle hugs. There is the link to the thread I was feeling GREAT with DR. K, but with all of this........ sneaking up slowly, Maybe I was able to fly back home to Alaska too soon. But, that is so hard to judge, with a doctor/patient. It's a crap shoot when to let your patient leave your local care, ya know? ?? Ya, I know what you mean. We love Dr. K, and we don't want to really be mad at him. I think it's a crap shoot period when you travel for a major surgery like this, because the after care can be a royal bitch. And you traveled 3,000 miles! He wouldn't have released you to go back home if there had been any sign of a leak or infection. Unfortunately it developed after you left :-( IF you don't want to wait any longer, don't be shy about asking him. I don't know what the green color means, but try to get him on the phone Monday to discuss that and your scans, if anything to relieve your mind. I will be seeing you SOON my dear, to give you a big, but gentle hug. |
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Post by smileyjamie on Feb 5, 2012 17:10:16 GMT -5
Ya, I know what you mean. We love Dr. K, and we don't want to really be mad at him. I think it's a crap shoot period when you travel for a major surgery like this, because the after care can be a royal bitch. And you traveled 3,000 miles! He wouldn't have released you to go back home if there had been any sign of a leak or infection. Unfortunately it developed after you left :-( IF you don't want to wait any longer, don't be shy about asking him. I don't know what the green color means, but try to get him on the phone Monday to discuss that and your scans, if anything to relieve your mind. I will be seeing you SOON my dear, to give you a big, but gentle hug. Thank you, Sharyl!!!!!!!! I REALLY, REALLY NEED THE BIG HUGS. I know there are people on here who disagree with me waiting up here in Alaska, but Dr. K is in e-mail contact with me, and I have his support with the present situation. |
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Post by kyal on Feb 5, 2012 18:39:49 GMT -5
I get the majority of my fluids in. One day, GREAT!!!!!!! Over the minimum. And the next day it will be about 10 ounces shy. Th JP drain fluid looks dark green... sometimes looks like cola syrup. The amount has decreased, but sometimes....... it can be alot more than I expect. I get on a plane Thursday nite, that is a few days from now. I will be in Dr. K's capable hands very, very soon!!!!!! Are these fluids going in orally or through the tube? |
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