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Post by historytracker on Mar 2, 2014 0:43:18 GMT -5
So what did the surgeons tell you about your expected weight loss when being revised from RNY TO DS? I am not concerned about how fast the weight loss comes out. I just want to see the scale change. I am doing this revision because basically after the 140 pound weight loss - I lost nothing else and I would really enjoy taking off another 120. I am hoping to reach goal in 2 years.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2014 10:56:01 GMT -5
Looking back I realize my surgeon and I never discussed weight loss in numbers. Just that this revision was medically necessary. I had marginal ulcers, sever dumping, and was miserable. I set a personal goal to reach 150 which would be about a 90 pound loss. Well I achieved my goal and passed it. At 14 months post-op I have lost all of my excess weight. I feel great. At first I was scared would I be one of the ones who lost to much but my weight loss has slowed and I have been stable at 125.
I just try to follow the plan- Protein and fat as high as possible, carbs 50-80. 64 oz of water, Vit's. Some introduce carbs early or eat over the recommended amount and are able to maintain. I hear there can be a bounce back after a few years so I am not going to force myself into maintenance I am going to just let my body go where it wants to while following the plan give or take and see what happens. Everyone is different.
Good luck.
Whit
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Post by Girlrocker on Mar 2, 2014 21:00:31 GMT -5
Hi there! You know, it can vary like everything else with this surgery. My surgeon (same as Whit's) said 160s were good for me, and I agreed with him; had no idea if I would get here, but I did, it took just over a year and my surgery weight was 240 lbs. I was very fortunate to have a smooth recovery, a lot of us have; and others like Whit have had complications and others have had slower weight losses. Variables include your own body and health, how functioning your metabolism is - mine was completely flat-lined - how complicated your revision might be, age, height etc. We do start a deficit with our bodies already having gone through a malabsorptive procedure, but the chances of losing to a healthy weight are good overall. Because I had been through the pain and frustration of a regain with my RNY, I was extra diligent post op. I really wanted to maximize the first year of the surgery when it's the optimal losing window. I got in my protein any way I could - food, protein shakes, protein shots, really adhered to keeping my carbs in check; I ate them but used the 50g guideline, and re-learned how to eat full fat  Side note, I also was very careful since I'm a (recovering) addictive/compulsive eater, so I chose good, complex carbs, including my starches, I really wanted to keep writing my old patterns and bad habits. I will say having been through an RNY, it did help me with my DS, I had learned a lot already about eating protein focused, and eating it first, adjusting to a very small stomach, what we often refer to here as limited real estate. Keep asking all the questions you need, let us know how we can help. |
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Post by historytracker on Mar 6, 2014 1:15:31 GMT -5
Thanks your for your help. I am down 16 pounds and trying to focus on the carbs/protein and following the rules of the RNY. I asked Dr. Greenbaum how much did he think I would get down to and he said around 200 and 150 is the number he said I should weigh. The problem is having never having been that weight how do I determine what is right for me? I can't imagine it until I am comfortable in my own skin. I guess I will now that number when I reach it.
Right now I am at 269 and I am hoping to drop at least another 20 pounds by July. My highest weight was 380 so at least I did not gain all of my weight back after RNY. Whit and Sharyl - thank you - you have given me some hope of what I can expect if I were to weight 250/240 as a surgery weight. I know that 2 weeks before surgery I will be on a full liquid diet. I am just waiting on the insurance approval right now as everything else is complete.
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Post by goodkel on Mar 6, 2014 1:59:33 GMT -5
Thanks your for your help. I am down 16 pounds and trying to focus on the carbs/protein and following the rules of the RNY. I asked Dr. Greenbaum how much did he think I would get down to and he said around 200 and 150 is the number he said I should weigh. The problem is having never having been that weight how do I determine what is right for me? I can't imagine it until I am comfortable in my own skin. I guess I will now that number when I reach it. Right now I am at 269 and I am hoping to drop at least another 20 pounds by July. My highest weight was 380 so at least I did not gain all of my weight back after RNY. Whit and Sharyl - thank you - you have given me some hope of what I can expect if I were to weight 250/240 as a surgery weight. I know that 2 weeks before surgery I will be on a full liquid diet. I am just waiting on the insurance approval right now as everything else is complete. If you are diligent about getting in your fluids, vitamins, and protein and keeping a tight reign on the carbs, you can maximize your weight loss. Don't get off the program when you are in a stall, keep the faith. Let your body decide when it is done. I don't think 150, or the vicinity of it, is out of reach for you. |
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Post by Girlrocker on Mar 6, 2014 5:35:06 GMT -5
This particular insight and wisdom will be so valuable to you, and really is the best 'measurement' to go by. We have goal weights, ideas about what they are or should be...but living them is different. I remember being amazed that by all the photos I saw, weights 170-190s and no one ever looked like they weighed what they weighed. When I first began this whole process with my RNY in 2002, I wanted to be in the 130s; this seemed reasonable to me, I was 278, a 110b loss seemed realistic with surgery; my lowest weight in high school was 128 and that was actually 'heavy' for my age at the time. Of course, I really wasn't heavy, just very womanly shaped and built. But that's another topic entirely  I struggled with my RNY, and getting under, staying under 200 lbs was herculean; I saw 180s for a nano-second after my panniculectomy/hernia surgery, but quickly went back to the 190s and then back to 200. By then I had revised my goal to 150, but would have been happy with 170, based on how I felt and looked. I have actually gone down into the 150s with my DS revision, but not sure I'll stay there, assessing that now just over 2 years out. I am also heading into menopause and have another hernia, but I know that my restriction has relaxed and while I of course still malaborb, I really have to reign in it from some of the 'freedom' I had for a brief time. You are doing a tremendous job so far, pre-op diets are so difficult, but they can be great 'training' mindset for surgery, as in, being in the best shape possible. Plus you'll be that much more ahead of the curve in both losing weight and, adapting your eating habits. Glad to see you here and posting! |
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Post by PrettyGirlBounce on Mar 7, 2014 17:02:23 GMT -5
Also, I know the ultimate 'goal weight' is a number one sticks in their head and works towards accomplishing, but I also like the idea of 'mini goals' along the way (including scale victories AND non-scale victories). Getting to *that* low number might feel unattainable at times and can cause frustration. Mini goals allow one to consistently feel that sense of achievement/reward which we all long for from the beginning. We are all human. We all want results...and fast. It's totally normal and expected. Mini goals can give you some sense of control over your long-term expectations. |
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Post by historytracker on Mar 22, 2014 7:55:04 GMT -5
Well I have a surgery date - June 30th. I will stop teaching on June 27 and my summer vacation will just start. We better not receive any more snow days. I received the approval letter from my insurance company. I would like lose another 20 pounds before surgery. I am focusing on my carb intake, exercise, protein and healthy habits that I need to establish. I am approaching this surgery very differently than my original RNY. I am hoping to break 200 with this surgery.
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Post by Girlrocker on Mar 22, 2014 11:07:14 GMT -5
Well I have a surgery date - June 30th. I will stop teaching on June 27 and my summer vacation will just start. We better not receive any more snow days. I received the approval letter from my insurance company. I would like lose another 20 pounds before surgery. I am focusing on my carb intake, exercise, protein and healthy habits that I need to establish. I am approaching this surgery very differently than my original RNY. I am hoping to break 200 with this surgery. This is wonderful news, hooray! You are doing a fantastic job of preparing - because in the long run, it's not just what we eat, but we have to be willing to learn to live a different way to make this all work for the long-term. I love that you are 'training' for your surgery, getting in shape to be the best you can be. I think your expectations are realistic and spot on. Do you mind mentioning your current weight, or adding it to your signature, information, it will help going forward to continue to give you the best responses that fit you. Congrats again on getting a date, and good to hear from you, hope to hear more of your progress so we can root you on to your surgery date. And yes, no more snow days! |
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Post by calidreamer on Mar 22, 2014 13:59:14 GMT -5
Congratulations on having a date. That made it feel "real" for me. So glad you have a plan for going in to surgery as well as after!
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Post by historytracker on Mar 23, 2014 16:38:14 GMT -5
Ok - I added some stuff to my signature so hopefully it will show up in my post. I wish I made this decision sooner, but I guess I wasn't ready. At least I have something to look forward to (not the hospital stay). Thank you for your postings. I do not have support group since my surgeon is 2 hours away. I do however, plan on attending one meeting before surgery only because the topic is successful habits on weight loss.
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Post by Girlrocker on Mar 23, 2014 18:23:40 GMT -5
Ok - I added some stuff to my signature so hopefully it will show up in my post. I wish I made this decision sooner, but I guess I wasn't ready. At least I have something to look forward to (not the hospital stay). Thank you for your postings. I do not have support group since my surgeon is 2 hours away. I do however, plan on attending one meeting before surgery only because the topic is successful habits on weight loss. Hi Cindy, nice to 'see' you and the rest of your stats, will help us know you even better. I think a lot of us in our 40s and 50s and up can relate about making this decision sooner; and I don't think any of us go into surgery thinking we'd have to do it twice. I was 40 for my RNY, 50 for my DS revision. I've made peace with that, and focused on enjoying my life and all the good things ahead finally now being healthy and fit. You can do it too! And you do have a support group, right here in person support groups are great when available, but its hard to travel. I can't go to the one at my surgeon's hospital either, it's close but not a feasible time of day. Come here as often as you need, post whatever is on your mind, when you want/need support. |
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Post by historytracker on Apr 21, 2014 4:08:59 GMT -5
I was 35 when I did the RNY back in 2001. Now I am 48 facing the DS. I am dealing with the menopause for the past 2 years. I can't complain I just wish my cycle would stop. I tried to get to a support group with my surgeon last Thursday night. The topic was about good habits about weight loss. I got stuck on the NJ turnpike in traffic for 3 hours and didn't make it. So it looks like this will be my support group. I have learned so much through reading the post and asking questions.
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Post by Girlrocker on Apr 23, 2014 8:57:23 GMT -5
I was 35 when I did the RNY back in 2001. Now I am 48 facing the DS. I am dealing with the menopause for the past 2 years. I can't complain I just wish my cycle would stop. I tried to get to a support group with my surgeon last Thursday night. The topic was about good habits about weight loss. I got stuck on the NJ turnpike in traffic for 3 hours and didn't make it. So it looks like this will be my support group. I have learned so much through reading the post and asking questions. And, another thing we have in common, hello to menopause for me too! I'm now in the sweats/hot flash stage. I actually don't mind either, don't miss having my period at all, and looking forward to this being behind me, since I'm tired, sweating, having crazy PMS-like sugar/salt cravings all the time, instead of the usual 1-2 PMS days. We are definitely here for you, I'm still amazed at all I have learned being in online support communities, both during my RNY and now when I went through my revision. And I think you're going to great, you're already doing so many good things, and you clearly can cook, from your other posts I've seen!  |
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Post by historytracker on Apr 23, 2014 9:20:01 GMT -5
I cannot really complain at the menopause. My cycle stopped for 6 months and I thought - yahoo - it is gone. Then it comes back every month. At least it occurs for less days. I do not have hot flashes. My husband thinks I do, but that was in June, July and August and he cannot sleep with the air conditioner on. So guess what - house was 76 degrees and it was too hot!
I am going to rethink where I will be sleeping because with the surgery being on June 30 - I want to be comfortable as I can be. If that means sleeping with the AC on - then that is what I will do.
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Post by Girlrocker on Apr 23, 2014 9:29:33 GMT -5
Isn't it amazing, the never-ending battle over heat temperature in the house?! I'm with you, and, I hate to be hot. My housemate is male, and he could care less how hot it is, and I told him, last summer was the first/last time I live here with no A/C. For starters, I for sure will be putting a small window unit in my room, and, likely the living room. He can stay in the back studio if he likes it hot I live in southern California so it gets very hot, desert hot. Different than the bath water humidity from my native Chicago which I hated personally more than winter, but still hot. At least it cools down at night, since it is the desert air. The flashes are weird, but I know overall this could be much worse than it is hormonally. I'm just crabby because it's at the same time I have a 3rd hernia, and the food cravings make me crazy. I've been told it's a full year of no periods to be in full menopause, so now I'm finally there. I started skipping right before my revision, and then continued to skip, thought it was long gone, and then it came back. Now it's been a year. Buhbye, don't miss it ONE bit. |
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Side note, I also was very careful since I'm a (recovering) addictive/compulsive eater, so I chose good, complex carbs, including my starches, I really wanted to keep writing my old patterns and bad habits. 
I struggled with my RNY, and getting under, staying under 200 lbs was herculean; I saw 180s for a nano-second after my panniculectomy/hernia surgery, but quickly went back to the 190s and then back to 200. By then I had revised my goal to 150, but would have been happy with 170, based on how I felt and looked. I have actually gone down into the 150s with my DS revision, but not sure I'll stay there, assessing that now just over 2 years out. I am also heading into menopause and have another hernia, but I know that my restriction has relaxed and while I of course still malaborb, I really have to reign in it from some of the 'freedom' I had for a brief time. 
