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Post by majormom on Feb 11, 2012 7:02:28 GMT -5
Why is it that surgeons and dietitians think we can change our lifelong learned relationship with food in a year's time? Discuss.
Potentials
1) They've bought into the diet industry's propaganda.
2) They've never had a problem themselves so they assume this is something easily fixed with willpower.
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Post by angelcake on Feb 11, 2012 8:25:01 GMT -5
Now there's a question. I only developed issues as an adult following a very slow recovery from a major car accident (coma, broken neck and legs, paralysed down one side, amnesia, etc). I started comfort eating as I felt down and somehow it made me feel better even if only for a short time. I needed to feel happy as it was all too much to cope with. Overeating then became a habit. I have distant memories of what it was like to eat like a 'normal' person and yes, you just don't comprehend what it's like to have a disorder. Why on earth would someone eat unless they're hungry? I used to not eat until I was ravenously hungry, ie growly stomach, feeling dizzy, etc it just didn't cross my mind to eat until then. Having said all that WLS docs and nuts should have a better understanding given who they're working with. The mind is a very complex thing and as many people say, they got WLS coz they couldn't get brain surgery!!  I think it's a combination of: 1) They've bought into the diet industry's propaganda. and 2) They've never had a problem themselves so they assume this is something easily fixed with willpower. |
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Post by susan1219 on Feb 11, 2012 8:54:31 GMT -5
Also, it is society that sets the standards of what we think we should look like. My whole goal in going through my surgery was to get healthy and to teach myself new healthy habits. I grew up on a farm so even veggies were fried....
But I know that my surgeon did not prepare me for the emotional side of this surgery. I was sort of left out here on my own, which is why I started looking for online groups.
Also, what defines "normal"? I have friends with a very high metabolism that eat junk food all day and stay as thin as a stick and then I have friends who starve themselves to stay thin and "attractive." Why do we let other people's standards set ours?
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Post by angelcake on Feb 11, 2012 9:01:47 GMT -5
Yeah, I know what you mean about starving yourself to be skinny. I got to goal with WW twice (about 10 years apart), but I just couldn't stay at goal.
It's like I was on some sort of high while I was losing and really felt like I'd changed, but them bam, as soon I got to goal I was constantly hungry. No amount of carrot sticks could satisfy me.
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Post by susan1219 on Feb 11, 2012 9:06:08 GMT -5
Years ago, in my 20's, I actually struggled with anorexia to maintain "thin." Then after supposedly fixing my anorexia, I went to the other side...emotional eating. I figure I need to fix whatever made me go to those extremes and that I will have to do on my own. I don't know what the surgeons thinks happens to all these emotions post surgery....they are still there. Surgery does not fix them.
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Post by msbatt on Feb 11, 2012 12:07:55 GMT -5
I think it's a combo of both, but mostly #2. I just don't think anyone who's not been there ever really gets it. The closest I've heard a doctor come was the guy who compared asking obese to lose weight by dieting was like asking an alcoholic to take ONE drink, three times a day, for life---but to never take TWO..
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Post by Sandra C. on Feb 11, 2012 23:30:13 GMT -5
My nutritionist has lost lots of weight we were told. She is very compassionate. I think she is rare, hearing everyones reports about their nuts. there are so many variables why someone is very over weight. My issues are related to a Hypothyroid condition, going untreated for years, and back, hip and knee pain limiting walking for 7 years. Obesity is a family trait passed down through my moms family, in the genes, leptin resistant. Makes me hungry twice as often as my husband. the D.S. is a perfect solution, removing the ghrelin portion in the stomach. I am rarely hungry now. I usually only ate when I was hungry in the past." Head hunger" is hard to break they say. Its very real, takes lots of mental work to get out of that habit of thinking of foods and craving them. One help is the foods don't taste the same for months post surgery, then I don't have room for much any way, just a taste. I'm only 5 months out, will be able to eat more down the line, but not as much as pre surgery luckily.
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