Back on the wagon....

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Ok, so I'm noticing what I think is rebound weight gain. I've been steadily seeing higher numbers on the scale, Not that its truly a bad thing, just not wanting to let it get out of hand. It scares me to no end to think that I can gain weight again. That honeymoon phase is a killer now. You get so used to eating just about whatever, then BAM, regain happens.

So, I'm back on the wagon. No more simple carbs, and way less complex ones than I've been having. This morning is it back to protein and fat, and no carbs for breakfast. Eggs and bacon and cheese. Lunch today will be easy, as my group at work is doing a pulled pork cook-off, so I should be able to get protein without carbs for lunch too.

I'm scared that this will not work. I guess i have entered the last phase (the longest one, the 'forever' part).

I weighed 151 this morning. 164 kicks me back to being overweight, I WILL not go there.. I will fight it tooth and nail. I want to lose these 6 extra pounds, not because I really need to, but to prove to myself that going back to basics works for me.

I told myself over and over, and even posted it on here, that I am not worried about the regain, but now that i think I'm experiencing it, I don't care for this at all. I've gotten used to where I'm at, and want to stay as close to low end of my range I've had for almost 8 months now. It may not be possible, but the really scary part is not knowing how far it will go.

I wish we had more MEN that were further out (>5 years) to get an idea if men regain more than women. The data is just not out there. Scary.....

[Joanne]

Sept 12, 2014 8:05:14 GMT -5 @ds4life said:

Ok, so I'm noticing what I think is rebound weight gain. I've been steadily seeing higher numbers on the scale, Not that its truly a bad thing, just not wanting to let it get out of hand. It scares me to no end to think that I can gain weight again. That honeymoon phase is a killer now. You get so used to eating just about whatever, then BAM, regain happens.

So, I'm back on the wagon. No more simple carbs, and way less complex ones than I've been having. This morning is it back to protein and fat, and no carbs for breakfast. Eggs and bacon and cheese. Lunch today will be easy, as my group at work is doing a pulled pork cook-off, so I should be able to get protein without carbs for lunch too.

I'm scared that this will not work. I guess i have entered the last phase (the longest one, the 'forever' part).

I weighed 151 this morning. 164 kicks me back to being overweight, I WILL not go there.. I will fight it tooth and nail. I want to lose these 6 extra pounds, not because I really need to, but to prove to myself that going back to basics works for me.

I told myself over and over, and even posted it on here, that I am not worried about the regain, but now that i think I'm experiencing it, I don't care for this at all. I've gotten used to where I'm at, and want to stay as close to low end of my range I've had for almost 8 months now. It may not be possible, but the really scary part is not knowing how far it will go.

I wish we had more MEN that were further out (>5 years) to get an idea if men regain more than women. The data is just not out there. Scary.....

It's definitely more difficult the further out you get.

You still sound like you're in a good spot. I think maybe the fear of regain is worse than the actual place you are on the scale. For example, if you were guaranteed to stay at 151...or 161 for that matter..for the rest of your life would you be so unhappy? I think for most people it is the fear of lack of control of the scale. We're conditioned for that. Think of as a pre-op how many times you dieted and regained. On some level I think we always fear that. But the good news is the DS adjusts your metabolism, so now you can control that scale much better than you could have as a pre-op. Just go back to basics and you should see it move. Or, if your body is settling, be prepared it may NOT move, but you can probably prevent it from going up any more.

It does get more difficult, but you can influence it.

As far as your question on men - I can only tell you about my brother. He's 6ft tall, and started at 380 pounds. He lost down to about 180 which was frankly too thin. He bounced up within year 1-2 to about 200 which was a great weight for him. But he did get really used to having what I would call a free ride. I dont think he ever thought much about his choices. He's now 5 years out, 230 and unhappy. I still think he looks great, and his health is much improved, but I know he would like to lose 20-30 pounds.

[bboop]

I'm in the 30 lb pound range, too...wish it would go away.

So I suggest you keep on doing what you are doing. There is always a rebound...I think you are beginning to see it. So keep at it and maybe you will be one of the lucky ones that don't gain but I think the bounce back is pretty normal. What you plan to eat is right on target. Perhaps you can add some protein drinks in there too.

I think you are getting to the hard part and trust me it ain't fun. I was doing so well and dropping weight like crazy and then I had colitis and steroids...here came the weight. I seem to be stuck at the 30-35 bounce back weight and so far nothing is helping. I never did reach my goal weight because of the illness...so at least you have done that.

Hang in there...and keep a close eye on it. It's a bitch...trust me.

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Sept 12, 2014 8:05:14 GMT -5 @ds4life said:

 

I wish we had more MEN that were further out (>5 years) to get an idea if men regain more than women. The data is just not out there. Scary.....

The fact that you've already taken note of it and are addressing it and not in denial is the biggest part! YOU WILL BE JUST FINE!! I know it must be very scary, I am still a wannabe, so this should be a cakewalk for you based on what you've already accomplished. Its probably just a normal thing too, a cycle. That said, a Fat Cell never leaves our body unless surgically removed, it only shrinks and elongates, the inside being vacated to use as energy. And...Yes, it is just waiting there patiently hoping to re-fill again 24/7....BUT....The good news is for you, you have a lifelong tool that limits its prey, except for carbs of course, so yeah, you already have your answer .....Good luck, and remember, you are presidenting on new ground which will establish the data for all of us other men too!

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Sept 12, 2014 8:29:46 GMT -5 Joanne said:

it's definitely more difficult the further out you get.

You still sound like you're in a good spot. I think maybe the fear of regain is worse than the actual place you are on the scale. For example, if you were guaranteed to stay at 151...or 161 for that matter..for the rest of your life would you be so unhappy? I think for most people it is the fear of lack of control of the scale. We're conditioned for that. Think of as a pre-op how many times you dieted and regained. On some level I think we always fear that. But the good news is the DS adjusts your metabolism, so now you can control that scale much better than you could have as a pre-op. Just go back to basics and you should see it move. Or, if your body is settling, be prepared it may NOT move, but you can probably prevent it from going up any more.

It does get more difficult, but you can influence it.

As far as your question on men - I can only tell you about my brother. He's 6ft tall, and started at 380 pounds. He lost down to about 180 which was frankly too thin. He bounced up within year 1-2 to about 200 which was a great weight for him. But he did get really used to having what I would call a free ride. I dont think he ever thought much about his choices. He's now 5 years out, 230 and unhappy. I still think he looks great, and his health is much improved, but I know he would like to lose 20-30 pounds.

Nope, would not be unhappy to stay where I'm at. I'm conservative, so bumping it up to 161 makes me nervous. I know that the BMI number means dittly squat, but I like saying that I'm below a 25.. 164 puts me over that.. 161 is too close for comfort.. I like some room to work with, Maybe I'm being too vain, and I've never been that way before, but I've never been in this situation before either.. So many emotions this is stirring up.. All unexpected..

Yes, still in a good spot, and want to stay there..

[PeteA]

I agree with Robs477. It is a great sign that you're concerned and not sticking your head in the sand. Hals the battle is staying aware. Congrats on reaching a good spot for the "rest of your life" phase. The place we all want to be.

[goodkel]

Sept 12, 2014 8:05:14 GMT -5 @ds4life said:

I wish we had more MEN that were further out (>5 years) to get an idea if men regain more than women. The data is just not out there. Scary.....

Well, it looks like you've been elected to the position.

We're just going to have to keep you around.

[Joanne]

Sept 12, 2014 11:05:23 GMT -5 @ds4life said:

Sept 12, 2014 8:29:46 GMT -5 Joanne said:

it's definitely more difficult the further out you get.

You still sound like you're in a good spot. I think maybe the fear of regain is worse than the actual place you are on the scale. For example, if you were guaranteed to stay at 151...or 161 for that matter..for the rest of your life would you be so unhappy? I think for most people it is the fear of lack of control of the scale. We're conditioned for that. Think of as a pre-op how many times you dieted and regained. On some level I think we always fear that. But the good news is the DS adjusts your metabolism, so now you can control that scale much better than you could have as a pre-op. Just go back to basics and you should see it move. Or, if your body is settling, be prepared it may NOT move, but you can probably prevent it from going up any more.

It does get more difficult, but you can influence it.

As far as your question on men - I can only tell you about my brother. He's 6ft tall, and started at 380 pounds. He lost down to about 180 which was frankly too thin. He bounced up within year 1-2 to about 200 which was a great weight for him. But he did get really used to having what I would call a free ride. I dont think he ever thought much about his choices. He's now 5 years out, 230 and unhappy. I still think he looks great, and his health is much improved, but I know he would like to lose 20-30 pounds.

Nope, would not be unhappy to stay where I'm at. I'm conservative, so bumping it up to 161 makes me nervous. I know that the BMI number means dittly squat, but I like saying that I'm below a 25.. 164 puts me over that.. 161 is too close for comfort.. I like some room to work with, Maybe I'm being too vain, and I've never been that way before, but I've never been in this situation before either.. So many emotions this is stirring up.. All unexpected..

Yes, still in a good spot, and want to stay there..

I understand this. At 5'7", my "25 BMI" number is 157. I am around 145 now, and don't like it when I approach 150. If I was 150, or even 160, and stayed there, I'd be happy. But I fear the trend of gaining more than the gain itself.

It's difficult. I dont think it's any more difficult than most people who want to maintain their weight have to do - but it's not a free ride. The good news is that your DS will continue to work for you. And it's much easier to maintain than to lose.

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Over the last week, I've seen a range of numbers. from 147 to 152, morning weight.. Seems like my range has expanded. Used to be I was in the same 2-3 pound range, now expanded to 5-6 from day to day.. That is just amazing to me. Previously, I would go to bed at one weight, and, dependably, wake up 3.5 lbs lighter after the morning movement. Now, I seem to have a swing of almost 5 usually. Last night went to bed at 153.2, woke up to 148.4. ( and no, I did not have a 5 lbs poop.) I eat just as much, maybe more heavy on the protein side than I was a week ago.

[goodkel]

I went from a 5 lb to a 10 pound fluctuation range.

I am pretty sure that much of the variation has to deal with how much sodium I've had and how much liquids in any given day.