average weight loss the first 3 months post ds surgery

[kittykatkris]

I was just curious what some of you vets had as far as average weight loss for the 3 months following ds surgery?

If you could put your height weight and even age before surgery and then 3 months after what your weight was?

Just curious as to what i can expect, i know everyone is different. Im just a curious kitty haha

[newyorkbitch]

It doesn't matter what happened to other people - it varies from person to person. It is not a race.

What is your height and weight, your surgeon, etc?

[kittykatkris]

Im going to be getting surgery in the next few weeks Just waiting for approval-
Im 31 yr old female 5'5" 225 lbs
Im going with dr roslin in nyc lenox hills hospital

[newyorkbitch]

Make sure you are getting a DS and not a SADI - if you want a DS that is. Dr. Roslin is rumored to be doing the SADI and not making the distinction for patients.

[newyorkbitch]

You are a "lightweight" meaning you have less than 100 lbs to lose. This could mean slower weight loss, this could mean too much weight loss….but only time will tell.

Have you discussed channel length etc with Roslin?

[kittykatkris]

Oh i definitely want the ds ds only thanks for the heads up. don't know much about that other one what are the differences

I have atrial tachycardia and pseudotumor ceribi along with PCOS so there's a few co morbidities.

[kittykatkris]

I am hoping for 125 common channel a little longer and I have a scheduled seminar September 9th and I will be meeting with Dr Roslyn sometime in October

[newyorkbitch]

There is a whole thread about the SADI on this board. You have to start learning to do your own research - that's very important.

Read this whole board - especially the info about surgery types and supplementation needs.

[kittykatkris]

I have done a lot of research at least 40 hours worth of reading but on the DS surgery

[west4thavenue]

As far as how fast your EWL goes, it is best to put your blinders on. Use the nutritional information you get on this board, the inspiration, the logic, the labs and the support. Pay close attention when people have complications, because you will learn a lot and be able to avoid pitfalls IF YOU LISTEN. But your results are your own and it's self-defeating to compare and contrast yourself to others. We lose at different rates. It's just that simple.

I think you will find that the diet mentality we all once lived with is counter-productive to us post-DS. You will have stalls and periods where you lose faster or more slowly. Weighing daily or trying to keep up with the Joneses on this will only make you crazy.

DS living is a whole new ballgame, Kitty, and very much a learning experience!

[Girlrocker]

Hi and welcome! You got great feedback from NYB, and it is important that all pre-ops become aware of the SADI, irregardless of the surgeon so it's something new to raise. For a fast dummy explanation, the SADI is similar in theory to the DS, but NOT a DS, and less malabsorption. Some vetted surgeons are watching it because it might be a viable contender for a less malabsorptive, effective surgery, but there is no data yet because it's brand new. And we have been hearing about the bait 'n switch, we have a few people on this board who have gone through that. You'll definitely want to clarify with your surgeon that you want a DS, not a SADI.

Here's a link to the SADI board, which you can also find by hovering on the Weight Loss Surgery Forum white tab, from there you get drop downs with individual boards for all the categories:
weightlosssurgery.proboards.com/board/73/single-anastomosis-duodeno-ileal-bypass

Stat-wise, you're similar to me in terms of h/w - I was 240lbs, 5'5 1/2 at the time of my RNY to DS revision. I was 49, no co-morbidities though. So a lightweight too and a revision which meant it could possibly go slower for me too. After slugging my way through the bariatric surgery world and 3 major weight losses and regains, I can tell you that what has become drilled into my head is that bariatric surgery isn't about rapid loss but maintaining the loss. It really does vary so much, the rate of loss, and some people do lose very quickly, and/or too much. I'd say generally speaking that's the exception, not the rule, the average to lose all the weight hoped for can range from 12-18 mos, for some up to 24 mos. Usually there's a nice drop in the very beginning, due to the abrupt change, decrease in nutrition and ability to take much in. It's kind of like an induction phase on a diet (Atkins, Weight Watchers, they all have them). Then it levels off, body has to readjust to its new plumbing, heal, and stair-stepper loss is also common.

[goodkel]

The rule of thumb to determine if you were on track to lose 100% of your excess weight USED to be 25% by three months out, 50% by six months out, and 80% by one year.

I capitalized "USED" because we don't follow those guidelines any more. I know that I never met them and I did lose 100% and more of my excess weight. Everyone is different. Some women who had their DS a few months before mine lost all their excess within 6-8 months. I felt horrible comparing my results to theirs. But, I kept on track with my vitamins, my protein, and watching my carbs and I lost it all eventually.

There is no average, no expectations. Follow the rules and the weight will come off in its own time.

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Sept 4, 2014 23:48:55 GMT -5 goodkel said:

The rule of thumb to determine if you were on track to lose 100% of your excess weight USED to be 25% by three months out, 50% by six months out, and 80% by one year.

I capitalized "USED" because we don't follow those guidelines any more. I know that I never met them and I did lose 100% and more of my excess weight. Everyone is different. Some women who had their DS a few months before mine lost all their excess within 6-8 months. I felt horrible comparing my results to theirs. But, I kept on track with my vitamins, my protein, and watching my carbs and I lost it all eventually.

There is no average, no expectations. Follow the rules and the weight will come off in its own time.

Kelly, You beat me to it!

Kittykatkris, GoodKel is right on the money! And you have many good, acurrate responses here. The DS is truly YMMV, (Your Milage May Vary). It is SO individual. Impossible to compare one person to another. You can compare Men to Women, Younger vs Older, and in some cases short vs tall, but you will never get a good comparison from person to person.

[kittykatkris]

THANK YOU EVERYONE!! Ok I will definitely keep my eyes open about wanting strictly DS nothing else. And thanks for all the info everyone!

I think because I have pcos, the whole carb thing is a big deal. And the way I have to adapt and change my eating post op and the anatomy changes themselves I think I will see great results.
I am honestly so very excited and extremely frightened!
Like I cant wait to get the surgery and then about 3 minutes later I am talking myself out of it in my head!

Did anyone else go through this or did I just admit to being crazy? haha

[goodkel]

Yes, crazy. But also perfectly normal.

Very few people go into this without going through a period of doubt and second guessing themselves.

"Maybe I'll try diet and exercise again and this time it will work." Nope. It won't.

"Maybe I'll go with the lap band. It is less invasive and is an outpatient surgery." It has the highest long term complications rate and provides the least amount of weight loss. How is a piece of plastic implanted around your stomach that will eventually need to be removed and replaced "less invasive"?

Throw your doubts at us. We've all been there.

[nursemelanie]

Sept 5, 2014 16:18:41 GMT -5 kittykatkris said:

THANK YOU EVERYONE!! Ok I will definitely keep my eyes open about wanting strictly DS nothing else. And thanks for all the info everyone!

I think because I have pcos, the whole carb thing is a big deal.

I have PCOS as well. I have always been a carboholic! Eating loads of protein has been a huge chore, but I am getting better and better at it. Just staying focused on my goals and paying close attention to all the suggestions and recipes for DS friendly ways to eat pizza, pasta-like dishes and discovering new "vehicles" to carry protein instead of bread. My mind wants all those old carb items, but they are enemies to my body. I have already started having periods, after a 43+lb loss. Looking forward to more benefits my body will experience and symptoms of PCOS that will lessen.

[citizenk9]

43 years old at surgery, 5'2", starting 294....I lost 63 lbs at 3 months

[OnMyWay2Thin]

Kris,

Just wanted to share, I went back and forth several times. I even canceled surgery two years in a row. Thank goodness Dr. Greenbaum gave me a third chance or I would be heavier than I was. I'm down about 45 pounds in two months.

Good luck,
Kelly

[fatmackn]

Sept 4, 2014 11:16:31 GMT -5 Girlrocker said:

. For a fast dummy explanation, the SADI is similar in theory to the DS, but NOT a DS, and less malabsorption, but there is no data yet because it's brand new.

I wouldn't call 2007 brand new. There's 2 components to this surgery; Sleeve gastrectomy and Billroth 2 connection. Both of which have been performed for ages

[newyorkbitch]

Maybe somebody with a good relationship with Roslin could get him on here to discuss these issues. Does anybody know if Rabkin is performing it? What does Keshishian have to say about these issues?

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Sept 4, 2014 9:54:12 GMT -5 kittykatkris said:

I have done a lot of research at least 40 hours worth of reading but on the DS surgery

Not to be rude, but, that's a good start