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Post by historytracker on Jul 8, 2014 22:03:44 GMT -5
I wasn't given much choices except for cream soups, cottage cheese, Greek yogurt and ricotta cheese along with protein shakes for the full liquid diet. The problem right now if the cottage cheese gives me so much indigestion. I have cut it from the list of foods. I made a big bowl of Ricotta fluff. Did any of you had other foods for the full liquid phase of your post op diets?
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Post by newyorkbitch on Jul 8, 2014 22:11:11 GMT -5
If they allow cottage cheese, yogurt, and ricotta that is not a liquid diet. It's a soft diet. Try scrambled eggs, tofu. Dairy may give you trouble.
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Post by Happy DSr on Jul 8, 2014 23:41:02 GMT -5
cream soups, if you can tolerate dairy
tomato soup if not too acidic for you
there are so many choices of pureed soups, ready to serve. I also liked squash soup, and would add coconut milk and some curry powder for flavour if you can handle a little spice
egg drop soup is yummy
sugar free popsicles
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Post by Girlrocker on Jul 9, 2014 2:18:14 GMT -5
I was going to say the same thing, doesn't sound like a liquid regimen but soft foods. Some dairy might be hard on your healing stomach right now, I had to do low/reduced fat for my dairy and work back up into it. Try an egg, either scrambled, hardboiled or with a little low-fat mayo as egg salad; peanutbutter, hummus, vegetarian refried beans (not full fat), sugarfree pudding with a scoop of protein. I also was a fan of pureeing tofu into my soups (and tomato was the only one I could stand for awhile), which gave me the creamy texture but protein too.
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Post by historytracker on Jul 9, 2014 3:59:07 GMT -5
They call the diet phase II. Thank you for your suggestions. But I hate eggs that will never happen - won't eat them! I guess I will have to get into soups. Love tomato! I may try to the adding pureed tofu to the soup. I will also try pudding idea I know that Fiber 1 makes a pudding with protein. I have no problem with Greek yogurt so I don't think it is the dairy. I thought it might have something to do with curds?
Just curious.
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Post by bboop on Jul 9, 2014 11:47:02 GMT -5
Yogurt is processed somehow so that's probably why it doesn't bother you. I have no idea what's done to it, but it doesn't usually bother people too much.
I say smash up soups in the blender and add some broth if you need it more liquid. Jello...I found small cups of
sf jello with cream in them and they are zero carbs. Look and see if Walmart has them.
If for some reason you have become lactose intolerant, then take a lactaid before you ingest anything with milk. That really seems to help people with this problem.
Don't forget mashed potatoes...remember you won't be eating a lot so a spoon or two won't give you that many carbs. Add broth to make them more liquid if you need to.
Sounds like you are doing well - not 100% but you are on your way.
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Post by Girlrocker on Jul 9, 2014 16:01:01 GMT -5
Dairy is a tricky thing in terms of tolerance. And I'd say the processing difference between cottage cheese and yogurt is definitely the culprit and why you'd have trouble with one and not the other. For grins, I googled 'difference between cottage cheese and yogurt" and was amazed at the number of articles that came up! Here's the one I liked the best: healthyeating.sfgate.com/plain-yogurt-cottage-cheese-better-you-4210.htmlI really liked pureeing tofu into my tomato soup, I craved it with the parmesean cheese, but I also pureed it or just diced into large cubes for my chicken broth soups, once I could stand them again, I also liked that with some lemon. Tofu really picks up the flavor of whatever its in, and is a nice gentler source of complete protein if options are needed. Mashed potato is a good idea - and mashed sweet potato is even better, if you like them, one of the best, complete nutrition foods around. Right now, I'm having my afternoon sweet treat - 1 cup of greek yogurt with one scoop of vanilla protein powder, 1 individual hazelnut coffeemate creamer, for a total of 45g protein and it's SO good, like a cross between pudding and soft serve ice cream  And, cream cheese pancakes would work for you now too! |
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Post by historytracker on Jul 10, 2014 4:21:04 GMT -5
Thanks. I tolerate yogurt great with no problem. So protein powder to Greek yogurt - hmmmm. That will be my lunch today. I have some lemon protein powder. I tried the tofu with tomato soup last night, but that ran through me. I wonder if it is because I used milk to thin it out.
I am going to make some pudding today and see if that work. I will be adding protein powder to the pudding. I dream of potatoes. Hands down I would rather have a any spud than rice! I have a box of spuds (yes they are instant) and I thought I would add Parmesan cheese.
Love sweet potatoes as well. I only need 60 grams to get in a day and I double up on my protein shake in the morning for 40 grams so the rest of the day I can focus on the 20 that I need.
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Post by Girlrocker on Jul 10, 2014 5:04:46 GMT -5
"Layering" my food was a trick I learned when I had my RNY, so basically, anything I could add in a protein without eating more food, the better. So I doubled my protein scoops, cooked an egg into my oatmeal, add a scoop of proteint to sugar free pudding or now, greek yogurt, and so on. A way to 'bulk' up the protein Now they have unflavored protein you can put into foods too. Ya, you might have defeated the benefit of the tofu in the tomato soup thinning with dairy instead of water. Or the tomato might not agree with you. Instant potatoes are perfect, easy to make, go down easy. |
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Post by jpcello on Jul 10, 2014 5:30:14 GMT -5
Thanks. I tolerate yogurt great with no problem. So protein powder to Greek yogurt - hmmmm. That will be my lunch today. I have some lemon protein powder. I tried the tofu with tomato soup last night, but that ran through me. I wonder if it is because I used milk to thin it out. I am going to make some pudding today and see if that work. I will be adding protein powder to the pudding. I dream of potatoes. Hands down I would rather have a any spud than rice! I have a box of spuds (yes they are instant) and I thought I would add Parmesan cheese. Love sweet potatoes as well. I only need 60 grams to get in a day and I double up on my protein shake in the morning for 40 grams so the rest of the day I can focus on the 20 that I need. Yes, the milk in the tomato soup probably did you in. It could also be the acid - a lot of people have problems with tomato soup early out so the combination really doesn't work. Why are you shooting for 60 grams per day? The first month you really only need 30 grams. The most important thing the first month is hydration. Since you don't eat eggs you need to find a easy protein - tofu is a good choice because you can blend or mix it into most anything. If you want potatoes (instant) then make a quarter cup and add some protein powder. I remember I used cream of wheat. Everything now moving forward is trial and error. You try something and see what happens. If it doesn't work, put it aside for a couple of weeks and try it again. |
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Post by willowrayne on Jul 10, 2014 6:11:23 GMT -5
Yogurt, pudding and scrambled eggs were my food of choice during that phase.
Yogurt is milk that has been cultured. The cultures feed off the lactose in the milk, which makes it yogurt. Most of the time yogurt has little or no lactose left. That's why it does not bother you.
How was the experience? I drove past the hospital that day and sent you good thoughts.
"Of all the things I've ever lost, I miss my mind the most."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 8:35:22 GMT -5
If potato works, You can puree any potato/cream or potato/broth based soup, just watch for the first or second ingredient to be EITHER milk or bleached white flour. I live on puree'd chunky ham and potato early on.
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Post by mark540 on Jul 11, 2014 10:27:46 GMT -5
Is it the whole egg that bothers you? The white is where all the protein is. Mask the flavor of scrambled egg whites with salsa or ketchup or any of a dozen flavors. Egg drop soup is good for this too.
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Post by nursemelanie on Jul 11, 2014 14:07:04 GMT -5
The Fage Greek yogurt has 20 grams of protein per serving.
7-1-14 VSG to DS w/ gallbladder removal, adhesion removals & repair of hiatal hernia
Dr Boyce, Knoxville, TN
HW 282 /SW 270 /CW 258/ loss to date 24 lbs
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Post by newyorkbitch on Jul 11, 2014 14:19:23 GMT -5
FYI for those interested: "Greek" yogurt is crazy expensive. You can easily make it - just get whatever brand of plain yogurt you like. Line a strainer with a couple of layers of cheesecloth. Pour the yogurt in and put it in the fridge (over a bowl) overnight. After most of the liquid drains out - voila, you have "Greek" yogurt.
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Post by historytracker on Jul 11, 2014 17:47:25 GMT -5
Eggs - I hate cooking them. The taste, the runny yolk that I find gross and if it is mixed up as a binder for other foods for instance meatloaf where I cannot taste the egg - then I am Ok. I do not think I would even order egg drop soup. Guess I am kind of fussy.
I did make sugar free pudding and added a scoop of protein. Also I made the potatoes (too salty) and added some cheese for protein. Both of those stayed down with no consequences. But I need to just focus on yogurt and maybe thinning
Protein requirements for the first couple of weeks are only 40. I am supposed to be eating 200-400 calories a day, and no more than 8 grams of fat.
Back in 2001, I just remember drinking 3 protein shakes a day in the first phase. I just need to focus on requirements. I drink like a fish so there is no problem getting the fluids in.
Saw Greenbaum today and he looked at the drains and incision - everything is good. Then he looked at the chart and asked how many days out from the surgery are you? I replied 11 days postop. He couldn't take out the drains yet and his office screwed up and brought me to soon in. So now I have to go back down on 6/18. Another week of looking at this stuff. Guess it could be worse.
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Post by cherylbaker on Jul 15, 2014 11:03:42 GMT -5
Eggs - I hate cooking them. The taste, the runny yolk that I find gross and if it is mixed up as a binder for other foods for instance meatloaf where I cannot taste the egg - then I am Ok. I do not think I would even order egg drop soup. Guess I am kind of fussy. I did make sugar free pudding and added a scoop of protein. Also I made the potatoes (too salty) and added some cheese for protein. Both of those stayed down with no consequences. But I need to just focus on yogurt and maybe thinning Protein requirements for the first couple of weeks are only 40. I am supposed to be eating 200-400 calories a day, and no more than 8 grams of fat. Back in 2001, I just remember drinking 3 protein shakes a day in the first phase. I just need to focus on requirements. I drink like a fish so there is no problem getting the fluids in. Saw Greenbaum today and he looked at the drains and incision - everything is good. Then he looked at the chart and asked how many days out from the surgery are you? I replied 11 days postop. He couldn't take out the drains yet and his office screwed up and brought me to soon in. So now I have to go back down on 6/18. Another week of looking at this stuff. Guess it could be worse. Hay hiw are you doing. . 11 days and he wouldn't take the drains out? How much were you collecting a day? My dr asked me to come back 9 days after to take the drain out. I do not want to go there for nothing. . I am draining about 20 cc in 20 hrs at this point. I thought the rule was 30 cc in 24 hrs? |
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Post by cherylbaker on Jul 15, 2014 11:07:25 GMT -5
The Fage Greek yogurt has 20 grams of protein per serving. 7-1-14 VSG to DS w/ gallbladder removal, adhesion removals & repair of hiatal hernia Dr Boyce, Knoxville, TN HW 282 /SW 270 /CW 258/ loss to date 24 lbs Looks like your 1 week ahead of me. How are you doing? At 2 weeks post op how are you doing? |
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Post by nursemelanie on Jul 15, 2014 11:46:28 GMT -5
The Fage Greek yogurt has 20 grams of protein per serving. 7-1-14 VSG to DS w/ gallbladder removal, adhesion removals & repair of hiatal hernia Dr Boyce, Knoxville, TN HW 282 /SW 270 /CW 258/ loss to date 24 lbs Looks like your 1 week ahead of me. How are you doing? At 2 weeks post op how are you doing? Doing very well physically. Of course I all ready had my sleeve, but with all the adhesions he removed by top of sleeve and repairing the hiatal hernia, I've got some areas that are pretty uncomfortable. I have 8 incisions including the one for my drain. I still can't wear a bra b/c I have 2 incisions directly under my breasts. I am feeling much better than I expected too @ 2 wks postop. I see my surgeon tomorrow. We are making the final trip to Nashville for our move(1/2 our things are in storage and 1/2 are coming with us) in a hour. We have a temporary residence until I am released to work. Life is quite crazy right now so I'm not getting too much time to fret over my recovery. 7-1-14 VSG to DS w/ gallbladder removal, adhesion removals & repair hiatal hernia Dr Boyce, Knoxville, TN HW 282 /SW 270 /CW 258/ Goal Weight 143 lbs =127lbs Loss/ WL to Date -24 lbs = 19% of goal |
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Post by Girlrocker on Jul 15, 2014 15:12:02 GMT -5
historytracker/cindy - well overall you sound like your recovery is going pretty well, I had to keep my drains in longer too. Your fluids, great, and your protein just fine for where you are. All our doctors are different in what they say, but generally the 30/60/90g guide works well for protein grams/days out from surgery. I relied on protein shakes for about 8 weeks. This recovery is definitely slower and more cautious than our virgin RNY surgeries. nursemelanie/I can NOT even fathom juggling a move on the scale you are, being a parent and all the you are managing, and just after major surgery! I think you are holding up amazing. I know you did your surgery in the window you had, but you deserve a lottta props for getting through all this. Glad to hear overall you too feel pretty good, except for the pain from hernia portion. I hear you, my hernia surgeries have been way more painful than my DS! cherylbaker/glad you have some new post-ops to commiserate with it helps so much, nothing like not only talking with people who share this experience, but sometimes, who are in the same place/time. |
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Post by cherylbaker on Jul 15, 2014 15:40:28 GMT -5
Looks like your 1 week ahead of me. How are you doing? At 2 weeks post op how are you doing? Doing very well physically. Of course I all ready had my sleeve, but with all the adhesions he removed by top of sleeve and repairing the hiatal hernia, I've got some areas that are pretty uncomfortable. I have 8 incisions including the one for my drain. I still can't wear a bra b/c I have 2 incisions directly under my breasts. I am feeling much better than I expected too @ 2 wks postop. I see my surgeon tomorrow. We are making the final trip to Nashville for our move(1/2 our things are in storage and 1/2 are coming with us) in a hour. We have a temporary residence until I am released to work. Life is quite crazy right now so I'm not getting too much time to fret over my recovery. 7-1-14 VSG to DS w/ gallbladder removal, adhesion removals & repair hiatal hernia Dr Boyce, Knoxville, TN HW 282 /SW 270 /CW 258/ Goal Weight 143 lbs =127lbs Loss/ WL to Date -24 lbs = 19% of goal Can't imagine trying to move feeling like this. See the dr on Thursday so hopefully he will say all is going as planned and ease my mind. |
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Post by nursemelanie on Jul 15, 2014 15:50:15 GMT -5
I'm sure it will be. It really is just having to take one day at a time. 7-1-14 VSG to DS w/ gallbladder removal, adhesion removals & repair hiatal hernia Dr Boyce, Knoxville, TN HW 282 /SW 270 /CW 258/ Goal Weight 143 lbs =127lbs Loss/ WL to Date -24 lbs = 19% of goal |
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