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Post by feyangel on Dec 26, 2011 15:02:52 GMT -5
**Please note, I had originally posted this on the Obesity Help forums, but was kindly directed here by Sher Bear Mama  .** I had my procedure on Monday, December 11th with Dr. Alverdy at the University of Chicago Medical Center. There are a couple of things I am finding confusing in my diet/nutritional packets for weeks 1-3, etc, as well as a few general questions. I am wondering if the material provided is just lumping the Rouxen-Y and Duodenal Switch together too much (there is only one packet to cover both). Question 1 - How long does one typically have to crush their medication and/or take liquid forms? This part is killing me the most. My 2 week follow up appointment is Wednesday, and I do plan to ask my surgeon, but wanted to get an idea as to how most people were directed. Question 2 - Everything I'm reading says food should all be low-fat and avoid anything fried. It says in both the soft food phase and "back to normal" phase that you should avoid fried foods, hot dogs, mayonnaise, sausage, salami, butter, sour cream, bologna, bacon, margarine, cream cheese, dips and salad dressings. While I can understand these things at first, I was under the impression that once all is healed, you can eat most anything and do not need to strive to eat nothing but low-fat and fat-free foods. These are the main questions I have for now. I'm doing pretty good with my fluids already (getting in around 60 oz per day on average) and have gotten my protein intake to between 80 and 90 grams since 12/22. I would just be so much happier if I didn't have to crush these pills; they truly are making me sick, and ruin any joy I feel from drinking  . |
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Post by Joanne on Dec 26, 2011 16:44:09 GMT -5
1 - What pills are you taking? As a DS'er you dont need to crush them, but very early post op some people do. Longer out, no, you do not need to crush. I'm asking what they are because if you're struggling to get in vitamins, just wait a little while. You can live off your stores for now. Try them again in a few weeks.
2 - The low fat thing is an RNY instruction. As early post op as you are, you might find some things dont sit well with you, and higher fat things might send you running to the bathroom. Try to introduce only a few things to your diet at a time. And eat them slowly to see how you tolerate them. Things will level out to what is normal for you in a few months.
Good job with the protein, most of us use the rule of thumb 30g by 30 days post op, 60g by 60 days, and up to 90 by 90 days. You're well ahead of the game.
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Post by hoosiermama on Dec 26, 2011 17:51:44 GMT -5
As early post op as you are, you might find some things dont sit well with you, and higher fat things might send you running to the bathroom. Try to introduce only a few things to your diet at a time. And eat them slowly to see how you tolerate them. That's what I found. I can tolerate high fat items (still haven't nor do i have any desire for anything deep fat fried, but pepperoni, bacon sends me running in about two hours. They are worth it  They gave me some real pills in the hospital and sent me home with pills and capsules. If it's not huge, it's fine in my experience. |
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Post by Joanne on Dec 26, 2011 18:05:19 GMT -5
As early post op as you are, you might find some things dont sit well with you, and higher fat things might send you running to the bathroom. Try to introduce only a few things to your diet at a time. And eat them slowly to see how you tolerate them. That's what I found. I can tolerate high fat items (still haven't nor do i have any desire for anything deep fat fried, but pepperoni, bacon sends me running in about two hours. They are worth it They gave me some real pills in the hospital and sent me home with pills and capsules. If it's not huge, it's fine in my experience. It probably wont be like that once you get a few more months behind you. Early out there were many things that sent me running in an hour or two - now I can eat pretty much anything. Some dessert type things make me gassy, and white rice gives me cramps, but that's it. No running urgency since month 2 or 3 at the most. |
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Post by hoosiermama on Dec 26, 2011 18:20:04 GMT -5
That's good to hear, JB I'm trying things now to see what my body will have an issue with. I had one whole wheat cracker last night...didn't like it but it wasn't a problem. I had a piece about the size of a square of cheese of candied yams...no prob. Pepperoni...OMG, it's so good and soooo bad for my tush LOL I bought some low carb bread and I want to make myself a grilled cheese 1/2 sammich...we'll see how that goes. How long before I should try real milk again? I hear the lactose probs might go away...I was thinking giving it till I'm 3 months out. Thanks me |
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Post by SLVinNorCA on Dec 26, 2011 19:01:34 GMT -5
That's good to hear, JB I'm trying things now to see what my body will have an issue with. I had one whole wheat cracker last night...didn't like it but it wasn't a problem. I had a piece about the size of a square of cheese of candied yams...no prob. Pepperoni...OMG, it's so good and soooo bad for my tush LOL I bought some low carb bread and I want to make myself a grilled cheese 1/2 sammich...we'll see how that goes. How long before I should try real milk again? I hear the lactose probs might go away...I was thinking giving it till I'm 3 months out. Thanks me
I'm asking because even pre-op I have things that I eat, that I can't identify WHERE THE HELL all the gas is coming from. I've tried food logs and it helped for a couple of things....maybe it's just EVERYTHING LOL.
I'm assuming it's even harder when you are eating more often in a 24 hr period.[/color] |
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Post by sherbearmama on Dec 26, 2011 21:29:22 GMT -5
That's good to hear, JB I'm trying things now to see what my body will have an issue with. I had one whole wheat cracker last night...didn't like it but it wasn't a problem. I had a piece about the size of a square of cheese of candied yams...no prob. Pepperoni...OMG, it's so good and soooo bad for my tush LOL I bought some low carb bread and I want to make myself a grilled cheese 1/2 sammich...we'll see how that goes. How long before I should try real milk again? I hear the lactose probs might go away...I was thinking giving it till I'm 3 months out. Thanks me
I'm asking because even pre-op I have things that I eat, that I can't identify WHERE THE HELL all the gas is coming from. I've tried food logs and it helped for a couple of things....maybe it's just EVERYTHING LOL.
I'm assuming it's even harder when you are eating more often in a 24 hr period.[/color] I try introducing only one new food (or vitamin) a day into my diet. If I do more than one, then I never know exactly what upset my stomach. If I happened to introduce 2 things that day (not thinking) then I just cut them both out for a few days and try again--one at a time. ;D Sheri |
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Post by sherbearmama on Dec 26, 2011 21:30:37 GMT -5
**Please note, I had originally posted this on the Obesity Help forums, but was kindly directed here by Sher Bear Mama .** I had my procedure on Monday, December 11th with Dr. Alverdy at the University of Chicago Medical Center. There are a couple of things I am finding confusing in my diet/nutritional packets for weeks 1-3, etc, as well as a few general questions. I am wondering if the material provided is just lumping the Rouxen-Y and Duodenal Switch together too much (there is only one packet to cover both). Question 1 - How long does one typically have to crush their medication and/or take liquid forms? This part is killing me the most. My 2 week follow up appointment is Wednesday, and I do plan to ask my surgeon, but wanted to get an idea as to how most people were directed. Question 2 - Everything I'm reading says food should all be low-fat and avoid anything fried. It says in both the soft food phase and "back to normal" phase that you should avoid fried foods, hot dogs, mayonnaise, sausage, salami, butter, sour cream, bologna, bacon, margarine, cream cheese, dips and salad dressings. While I can understand these things at first, I was under the impression that once all is healed, you can eat most anything and do not need to strive to eat nothing but low-fat and fat-free foods. These are the main questions I have for now. I'm doing pretty good with my fluids already (getting in around 60 oz per day on average) and have gotten my protein intake to between 80 and 90 grams since 12/22. I would just be so much happier if I didn't have to crush these pills; they truly are making me sick, and ruin any joy I feel from drinking . Glad to see you here Feyangel! You'll get lots of good information over here. Sheri |
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Post by Joanne on Dec 26, 2011 21:44:51 GMT -5
That's good to hear, JB How long before I should try real milk again? I hear the lactose probs might go away...I was thinking giving it till I'm 3 months out. Thanks me I would stay away from milk for a long while. It's not easy to tolerate, plus it has too many carbs and not enough protein. Are you thinking of a glass of milk to drink, or using milk in something? You should try half and half or cream - less carbs than milk. |
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Post by beemerbeeper on Dec 26, 2011 21:56:34 GMT -5
I think I answered you over on that other site.
I didn't ever crush a pill.
Fat is your friend (once you are a few weeks out and your system has calmed down.)
Without enough fat you can be in jeopardy of fissures which you REALLY don't want.
This is one of the HUGE reasons we need a site like THIS. So we can make sure people get correct information that their surgeon's don't give them.
Bacon, mayo, cooking oil.... basic ingredients of my DAILY diet. If I can't get it (travel or what have you) I have to take a ton of Magnesium Oxide so that I won't get constipated.
~Becky
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