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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 6:24:30 GMT -5
DO NOT HAVE THE DS. It is NOT a match for you. You do not have the time to recover before returning to work and you will not be able to deal with the bathroom issues when you do return to work after only two weeks. That is an inarguable fact, Daphne. Thorough research will support my position on this. There is one more reason why this surgery is not for you, or at least, not for you at this time in your life. Everyone who has this surgery must be able to RECEIVE, ACCEPT and IMPLEMENT information about diet, supplements, blood work, complications and many other issues that will affect the DS patient for the remainder of his or her life. This does not describe you, Daphne. And I don't need to do any research further than I already have about you to be able to tell you that. I wish you well. Daphne, I'm not going to give my 2 cents here other than to say I think you are very brave for posting so honestly. I respect that and I wish you the best. Also, would like to say that these Vets on this site and the others are the best of the best of the best and I'll just leave it at that. And, it is your life and your decision and I do respect that perspective as well. At least you can say you've gone in to this being informed, that is more than a lot of people do, but, yes...the decision is yours for sure, so I offer you my best wishes and good luck!
P.S. Is it just me, or does Monica always have the most sweetest, kindest, wisest posts? Almost Zen like or like Yoda...lol
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Post by daphne on Oct 1, 2014 9:59:38 GMT -5
For people that are somewhat new to DS boards you have to admit that it would be much easier to lie about surgeon choices just so we could get the information we are looking for. I am mixing up boards here but either on this one or another there is a person lying about her surgeon. She went to the same doctor I am going to but that isn't what she claims. I don't blame her. I have talked to her extensively on the phone but I did not realize at that time she was posting claiming another surgeon. I understand, it would make life much easier.
The other page doesn't seem too fond of this page, I can only assume there is a history there. I cannot get questions answered there, they are too busy trying to degrade me. I don't have time for that, I am trying to make a decision about surgery choices. I can't be bothered anymore with high school drama.
I get a strong feeling that the coordinator I was working with for Dr. Ungson reads these boards. My sincere hope is when she sees this in black and white she changes her ways of doing business. My bigger hope is that Dr. Ungson realizes that having a band surgeon take care of a DS patient is not a wise move.
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Post by newyorkbitch on Oct 1, 2014 10:08:25 GMT -5
People here are wiling to help you Daphne, but you have to be straightforward and answer people's questions.
Who is the surgeon? How long do you think you would take off from work? What followup care do you have arranged?
Also, for lots of folks, the bathroom issues never go away.
It seems to me that you are very focused on the surgery itself and the immediate post-op period. But you need to be focusing on longterm issues and whether or not you can deal with those.
If you intended to come here for help and guidance from experienced patients, you need to start by being straightforward about your situation and answering people's questions, or else there is really no point to the discussion.
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Post by Girlrocker on Oct 1, 2014 10:55:47 GMT -5
Hi Daphne, you're in a good place to really get support and answers. We don't care about any of that other 'stuff'. We have our occasional flare ups, more relative to online communities as a whole, but they are minimal. No rants/raves board here, because we don't care about that. Our focus here is surgery support and all that it entails. This place really is a forum, no fancy bells and whistles, just a well presented, solid place of research, information and support. A lot of good 'sticky' posts to read on each board.
But yes, you have to be forthcoming. The alarm is sounding to any of us who posted because we do care, and you do seem focused specifically on actual surgery and immediately post-op; not the long-term issue of surgery and your overall health.
Many of us have to juggle the same things you are - being the breadwinner, little or no disability leave time, crappy insurance, raising kids, caring for elderly parents, and so on. Many of those stories are here. But you have to have the big picture in mind when you opt for surgery. Any bariatric surgery. Every procedure has consequences and risks. These things can happen in the best, most capable surgeon's hands. But having a surgeon who is experienced is crucial. You live in southern California, I know you prefer a surgeon closer but you happen to be in the state with two of the best surgeons around - Dr. Keshishian in Glendale (3 hours from you) and Dr. Rabkin up north. We do use a vetted surgeons list - and yes, it's true, good surgeons not known to the community are out there, and not yet added. There are also surgeons with well established poor histories. And, unfortunately, some well known vetted surgeons make changes that are of concern and it's good to know that too.
We'll be the first to say, research and read everything you can. But it's also a huge benefit to have the support and guidance of people who have had surgery long ago, and are around to offer insight of the long-term big picture. Even when I first had my RNY in 2002, I always looked for stories of people living with the surgery as far out as possible, besides having a range of experiences to read, and some post-ops at the same place, stats as me. But NYB, west4thavenue have a point, and that's what we're trying to say to you. NYB is 14 years, or is it 15 years? Out from her DS. West4thavenue is a 6 month post op. I am a near 3-year RNY to DS revision post op. Be straight, focus on this board and the people here, you'll get that same straightforward approach back. Otherwise, you're shooting yourself in both feet, and surgery is a HUGE step. Just because a sleeve doesn't have the malabsorption of the DS, doesn't mean it isn't a serious surgery with risks. IT IS. Make the choice based on what is best for you and your health LONG TERM, what you really can and can't live with; think twice, cut once. And make sure that cutter is a good one.
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Post by Leonie on Oct 1, 2014 14:37:19 GMT -5
Daphne, in your first post you talk about hunger. I can identify with the type of hunger you are experiencing. I used to be "always hungry", "always tired" and "always gaining". I was a victim of Metabolic Syndrome.
The DS fixed me.
I doubt that the VSG would have.
I am no longer obese. I am no longer diabetic. I no longer have high cholestrol. I am no longer a stroke risk.
The DS fixed me.
Perhaps you don't need fixing.
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Post by goodkel on Oct 2, 2014 3:56:27 GMT -5
It makes far more sense to have a local surgeon and my surgeon is about 10 miles from my home. He is a mile from the border, I am about 9 miles from the border. I disagree with Dr. Ungson if he feels a band surgeon can handle a DS complication. He is still not a surgeon for me regardless of state. If you want to go to him for surgery I am happy to provide a couple of phone numbers and an email address. I am not going to him. I have made the decision that is right for me. By the way, the band surgeon would only follow me for 24 to 48 hours. Then a non surgeon who specializes in nutrition will complete my post op hospitalization. Do you realize that if I had a major complication the surgeon I would have to call is the one I am already going to anyway? Hospital will be a full week and my surgeon will be following me the entire week. A bathroom is still a big issue for me. If I decide on DS I will have to figure out how to deal with it. What are you talking about, Dr. Ungson recommending a "band surgeon" to handle a complication? Sounds like bunk to me. WHO IS YOUR SURGEON? There are NO border surgeons qualified to to the DS. NONE.
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Post by Girlrocker on Oct 2, 2014 6:17:48 GMT -5
It makes far more sense to have a local surgeon and my surgeon is about 10 miles from my home. He is a mile from the border, I am about 9 miles from the border. I disagree with Dr. Ungson if he feels a band surgeon can handle a DS complication. He is still not a surgeon for me regardless of state. If you want to go to him for surgery I am happy to provide a couple of phone numbers and an email address. I am not going to him. I have made the decision that is right for me. By the way, the band surgeon would only follow me for 24 to 48 hours. Then a non surgeon who specializes in nutrition will complete my post op hospitalization. Do you realize that if I had a major complication the surgeon I would have to call is the one I am already going to anyway? Hospital will be a full week and my surgeon will be following me the entire week. A bathroom is still a big issue for me. If I decide on DS I will have to figure out how to deal with it. What are you talking about, Dr. Ungson recommending a "band surgeon" to handle a complication? Sounds like bunk to me. WHO IS YOUR SURGEON? There are NO border surgeons qualified to to the DS. NONE. To clarify, what Daphne said was that Dr. Ungson would not be around for her post-op aftercare, he would fly in, do the surgery and then fly out, another surgeon would oversee the aftercare, only for 24-48 hours and, this surgeon is a band surgeon not a DS surgeon; and understandably, not happy with that, and asking the question, what if a complication arose from her surgery, how would a band surgeon be able handle any problems, complications that came up.
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Post by willt on Oct 2, 2014 16:24:05 GMT -5
WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I had surgery with Dr Ungson in Mexicali 3 months ago and can tell you that what "Daphne" is saying is a bunch of CR** with a capital C. Dr. Ungson was there for a few days after my recovery and personally told me that is anything came up he was just 2 hours away, he is in town once a month, about one week when I was there for surgery . He checked on me for a couple of days post op + I saw Dr Beltran and Dr Campos several times a day, every single day, this the same system they had when Dr. Aceves was there, they handled all post op tests and care. Heck I did not expect to see the surgeon daily , it is the same here in the US. But I knew and was reassured that he would be back IF needed. No one mentioned any other dr in town, ever, she is LYING. Of course this is the beauty of having a vetted Ds surgeon, you will most likely not have complications! My communication with his office has been flawless. No one has lied to me about anything, Dr Ungsons credentials are clearly stated everywhere, look it up. BEWARE this troll works for a pseudo-DS-surgeon in Mexicali and she is trying to discredit Dr Ungson and the team at MBC to drum up business for her boss. She has been banned from other boards!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 17:21:54 GMT -5
BEWARE this troll works for a pseudo-DS-surgeon in Mexicali and she is trying to discredit Dr Ungson and the team at MBC to drum up business for her boss. She has been banned from other boards!
Thats is an ubderstatement for sure! I'm sure the Vets here know whats going on too, they are just trying to take the higher road I think!
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Post by newyorkbitch on Oct 2, 2014 18:18:32 GMT -5
What is the name of the surgeon she is working for?
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Post by west4thavenue on Oct 2, 2014 19:07:45 GMT -5
Her name is not Daphne. It is Michelle Walsh. She has a number of aliases. She has worked for Husted in the past and now wrangles new patients for Arellano. She is suggesting here that Arellano trained Aceves, which is not true, and she is attempting to discredit Dr. Ungson. Her sole objective is to have new people PM her for her surgeon's name.
Please disregard this thread and everything she posted here.
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Post by newyorkbitch on Oct 2, 2014 19:36:26 GMT -5
I will make sure Arellano and Ungson are made aware of her unethical behavior.
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Post by Girlrocker on Oct 2, 2014 19:41:17 GMT -5
Her name is not Daphne. It is Michelle Walsh. She has a number of aliases. She has worked for Husted in the past and now wrangles new patients for Arellano. She is suggesting here that Arellano trained Aceves, which is not true, and she is attempting to discredit Dr. Ungson. Her sole objective is to have new people PM her for her surgeon's name.
Please disregard this thread and everything she posted here. I had a feeling, it was after that "I'm one smart cookie" I wanted to explain her 'position' plainly so the accusation she was making was very clear. Nuts and dangerous. Glad someone will alert the surgeons to what went on here.
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Post by newyorkbitch on Oct 2, 2014 19:47:37 GMT -5
"Daphne" if you have anything further to say you might want to do it here, now. Because I am going to make sure you lose your job and never work for another bariatric surgeon in that area again.
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Post by west4thavenue on Oct 2, 2014 20:22:51 GMT -5
Her name is not Daphne. It is Michelle Walsh. She has a number of aliases. She has worked for Husted in the past and now wrangles new patients for Arellano. She is suggesting here that Arellano trained Aceves, which is not true, and she is attempting to discredit Dr. Ungson. Her sole objective is to have new people PM her for her surgeon's name.
Please disregard this thread and everything she posted here. I had a feeling, it was after that "I'm one smart cookie" I wanted to explain her 'position' plainly so the accusation she was making was very clear. Nuts and dangerous. Glad someone will alert the surgeons to what went on here. Actually, this board was not the only one she hit this week. She has done this before and will probably do it again. The surgeons down there evidently pay her for every patient she can bring to them. In other words, she's a pimp.
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Post by newyorkbitch on Oct 2, 2014 20:30:14 GMT -5
But what she is doing is damaging his reputation, not helping it. And that is what they will come to understand.
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Post by west4thavenue on Oct 2, 2014 20:35:00 GMT -5
I agree with you. It's a very slimy way to do business.
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Post by goodkel on Oct 4, 2014 2:59:19 GMT -5
Daphne is a troll. Two other members and I recognized her from long ago on OH. It seems she is making the rounds again.
She has been banned.
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Post by goodkel on Oct 4, 2014 3:37:59 GMT -5
WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I had surgery with Dr Ungson in Mexicali 3 months ago and can tell you that what "Daphne" is saying is a bunch of CR** with a capital C. Dr. Ungson was there for a few days after my recovery and personally told me that is anything came up he was just 2 hours away, he is in town once a month, about one week when I was there for surgery . He checked on me for a couple of days post op + I saw Dr Beltran and Dr Campos several times a day, every single day, this the same system they had when Dr. Aceves was there, they handled all post op tests and care. Heck I did not expect to see the surgeon daily , it is the same here in the US. But I knew and was reassured that he would be back IF needed. No one mentioned any other dr in town, ever, she is LYING. Of course this is the beauty of having a vetted Ds surgeon, you will most likely not have complications! My communication with his office has been flawless. No one has lied to me about anything, Dr Ungsons credentials are clearly stated everywhere, look it up. BEWARE this troll works for a pseudo-DS-surgeon in Mexicali and she is trying to discredit Dr Ungson and the team at MBC to drum up business for her boss. She has been banned from other boards! Welcome! And you are absolutely right, Dr. Ungson is associated with Baylor University in TX, has taught at USC, has a had years of experience as a DS surgeon and a long track record of successful DS patients reporting only the highest quality treatment. His complication rate is low and, from what I have seen, have not suffered from either excess weight loss or lack of appropriate weight loss. Daphne is posting from Mexicali and is known as one of those unnecessary "medical tourism coordinators"/leeches for an inexperienced border town surgeon. We are not the only board where she had attempted to discredit the known/vetted Mexican DS surgeon to pave the way for her sales pitch. Thank you for speaking up!
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Post by goodkel on Oct 4, 2014 3:41:42 GMT -5
I will make sure Arellano and Ungson are made aware of her unethical behavior. For this reason, I will not be deleting any of her posts here. Thank you!
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