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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2014 11:56:50 GMT -5
Ummm, No, you that read wrong...
I am still below goal at 145.6. I was just saying that I had already LOST 140lbs before i started drinking socially again.
Thanks though.. I wish I would gain a few honestly.. but it is what it is..
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Post by xr7conv on Apr 7, 2014 13:00:47 GMT -5
Well my surgeon was one that said wait a year. I didn't make it a year but about 10 months or so. Started with the occasional glass of wine and then when I felt good with bubbles had the occasional beer. Now it is just a glass of wine or a beer on occasion. About what I ever did. I was never one that over indulged - other than a couple times in college. I enjoy the flavor of things too much. Now I really savor things because I have limits that I didn't have before.
My son is in culinary school and has really gotten into whiskeys of all kinds. Is learning about them and mixed drinks from 'mixologists' not bar tenders. There are several places here in town that have some well know mixologists and some of these drinks are amazing. He and some friends went out to a high end place and he just outlined the flavors that he liked the most to the mixologist and she custom mixed a drink for him that he loved. He had to write down the ingredients so he could remind her next time he was in since it didn't have a name. Next time I plan on going with him and trying the same thing.
Not that I have always lived by it but "all things in moderation".
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Post by goodkel on Apr 9, 2014 0:43:57 GMT -5
Ummm, No, you that read wrong... I am still below goal at 145.6. I was just saying that I had already LOST 140lbs before i started drinking socially again. Thanks though.. I wish I would gain a few honestly.. but it is what it is.. Give it time. You're not even 2 years out, yet. Most people have some bounce back from their lowest weight. Could be 10 pounds or more.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2014 7:13:13 GMT -5
well if it doesn't hurry up I'll still be 145 after the regain. 143.4, new low weight this morning. (by .2 lbs)
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Post by goodkel on Apr 9, 2014 9:46:36 GMT -5
How tall are you?
10 pounds is not written in stone. It can be more.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2014 12:23:57 GMT -5
5' 8"
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Post by newyorkbitch on Apr 9, 2014 15:26:18 GMT -5
Marc are you eating carbs - I mean how much?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2014 17:46:34 GMT -5
All of them? i eat pretty much what i want, when i want (protein is always over 100g /day) there are a few things that i don't eat, including white bread, pasta, cake, donuts, (getting the drift?). I do decent with moderate sugar with low gas. I think i get plenty of fat, cream in coffee, cook with real butter. I think i eat alot for having WLS.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2014 18:05:03 GMT -5
Today: 3/4 cup nature valley protein granola, 1/2 cup milk 1 premeire protein 30g bar 2 OE eggs 1 whole wheat english muffin 3 slice bacon 1 cup fried hash browns 1 whole jimmy john's billy club on wheat bread, (more of a multi-grain) 5 oz of carved ham 2 oz swiss cheese 1 Monster Rehab pink lemonaide, 20 cals, 2 (1 pack) little debbie peanut butter snack wafers 1 rockstar pure zero punched fruit punch, 0 cals. 1 bottle of water
I did not eat all this in this order. Just how I remembered it as i typed.
And i haven,t had dinner yet.
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Post by meq815 on Apr 9, 2014 19:03:09 GMT -5
Wow you eat a lot!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2014 19:11:21 GMT -5
It sounds like a lot, but think of it this way,
I had a bowl of protein cereal w/milk,
A protein bar,
A normal breakfast,
A jimmy john's sandwich
A protein snack after work,
A treat,
Drinks thru the day,
Doesn't sound so bad that way.
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Post by tiny83 on Apr 9, 2014 20:11:33 GMT -5
We should go to Than Linh's
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Post by tiny83 on Apr 9, 2014 20:12:10 GMT -5
We should go to Than Linh's Scott too
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2014 21:49:41 GMT -5
I won't do thai lyhns any more, BAD experiece the last time
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2014 15:01:26 GMT -5
We should go to Than Linh's Scott too Yes, sir...I was actually there last Friday after a meeting I had at LC. Mark, sorry it messes you up but I do really well with most of their stuff.
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Post by jpcello on Apr 10, 2014 15:08:51 GMT -5
Marc - what about adding a few more in between meal snacks. I can't go more than an hour or so without eating something.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2014 15:24:03 GMT -5
Today: 3/4 cup nature valley protein granola, 48 carbs, 15 protein1/2 cup milk 6 carbs, 4 protein1 premeire protein 30g bar 25 g protein, 30 g carbs2 OE eggs 14 g protein1 whole wheat english muffin 23 g carbs, 6 g protein3 slice bacon 9 g protein1 cup fried hash browns 46 g carbs, 4 g protein1 whole jimmy john's billy club on wheat bread, (more of a multi-grain) 68 g carbs and 47 g protein5 oz of carved ham 30 g protein2 oz swiss cheese 3 carbs, 16 g protein1 Monster Rehab pink lemonaide, 20 cals, 2 (1 pack) little debbie peanut butter snack wafers 34 g carbs, 4 g protein1 rockstar pure zero punched fruit punch, 0 cals. 1 bottle of water I did not eat all this in this order. Just how I remembered it as i typed. And i haven,t had dinner yet.
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Post by meq815 on Apr 10, 2014 16:07:05 GMT -5
Marc, I wasn't judging..... I'm impressed!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2014 16:22:39 GMT -5
Marc, I wasn't judging..... I'm impressed! I am Just kidding Marc. You seem to be getting in plenty of protein and carbs. I am sure you are going to get your bounce back at some point, but I know you worry about it. Hang in there. I am a bit worried about where I am going to end up myself. At 214, I really don't want to go any lower, but I am sure I will get down to at least 180. Don't really want to get that low. When people at work ask me how much more I want to lose they really don't get it when I tell them that isn't really under my control and that I will end up wherever I end up......I am just along for the ride. BTW, I am eating a shit ton now as well. Today I had 3 sunny side up eggs 10 pieces of bacon 3 cups of coffee Entire fried chicken breast (took off as much crust as I could), little fresh green beans with bacon and a little tater and gravy (4 or 5 spoons of each). and now I am eating some sun flower seeds (half of David bag) and getting ready to cook 6 more pieces of bacon will have some 30-40 grams of protein for dinner, not sure will also have small bowl of cereal with heavy cream. I am getting in an easy 200 grams of protein a day.
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Post by jpcello on Apr 11, 2014 3:56:54 GMT -5
Unfortunately the only real way to stop the weight loss is to add more carbs. More protein really won't do it. I eat at least 150 grams of protein myself.
I had gotten as low as 140 and I looked and felt awful - even though I'm only 5'3". The gas and bloating that comes with more carbs is something I live with. Its finding the balance of what I'm willing to live with to maintain weight that's the struggle.
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Post by meq815 on Apr 11, 2014 5:27:32 GMT -5
Jpc- I'm down to 137, at 5'7", and getting a little worried. I am 2 weeks away from one year out. I was happy 20 lbs ago!
Everyone says bounce back is real....here's hoping! I get my 1 yr labs done next week. As long as I'm healthy, I'll be less anxious.
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Post by newyorkbitch on Apr 11, 2014 5:48:22 GMT -5
Add carbs.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 8:09:04 GMT -5
I HAVE been adding carbs just not a lot of simnple carbs, they make me feel wierd if I have too much sugar, (like a kid eating too much easter candy.) I am eating veggies, multi-grained bread, Whole wheat anything, rice cereal, corn chips, Meal replacement protein bars as snacks, Potato anything, sweet potatoes as well. Nothing seems to make me gain any weight, short of the weight of the food itself. (which i lose in the morning, hehe). Also, adding gravy to anything I can, cooking in butter or oil, eating fried stuff, I am adding some simple cartbs, adding real sugar to my coffee, have butter and grape jelly on toast, eating regular yogurts that have the sugars in it instead of the low carb CarbMaster's, Partake in about every office treat that is offered, (as least most of the time, skip bagels, and donuts, but will on brownies, cookies, fudge, but usually just 1 piece. If I have two, it's hours apart, if there is any left.
Last night I had Nachos, 2 handfuls of corn torilla chips, 4 oz of taco beef, 4 oz of cheese (at least), sour cream, and 3-4 tbsp of salsa. I ate the entire plate. This was just dinner.
a little scared that I was too reserved on carbs for too long, Not saying it was a bad thing, but makes me wonder what would have happened if I had eaten differently.
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Post by meq815 on Apr 11, 2014 11:09:35 GMT -5
I do eat carbs. I don't restrict anything at this point. Just can't eat much.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 11:29:15 GMT -5
I do eat carbs. I don't restrict anything at this point. Just can't eat much. I can eat a lot, almost to the point of being worried. I too eat pretty much anything I want and have been adding more carbs (still not over doing it) and I continue to lose. At 6.5 months post op I have lost 150 lbs and would be happy if I stopped here, but I know at least 30 more is coming off whether I want it or not. That being said I would not change a thing.
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Post by newyorkbitch on Apr 11, 2014 11:51:23 GMT -5
Scott you need more carbs.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 11:59:29 GMT -5
Scott you need more carbs. well, besides the fact that he's had nearly NO effects from carbs, I would love to see him suffer just a bit.... j/k Seriously though, Scott is tall, and of the MALE persuasion. I say he's doing just fine, only 6.5 months out, and 150 lost... that is bit on the heavy side (no pun intended) of the scale for safe weight loss even with WLS, but not off the deep end either.. Edit to add my example. Me at 6 months - down 120lbs - I'm only 5-8, Scott is ~ 6' 1" In fact, according to MFP, I was 176.4 on April 12. (an exact year ago.) which means I had lost 135 @ 7 months and a week..
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Post by newyorkbitch on Apr 11, 2014 12:25:28 GMT -5
I do not think that that low a level of carbs consumption, for that long, is a good idea.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 13:12:20 GMT -5
I beginning to suspoect the same, I starting to think that carbs maybe should be increasing with protein consumption increases.
thinking in ds math, 150g protein is only 600 cals, 150 in carbs is also 600 cals. 90g fat is 800, thats 2000cals. 50% absorption, 1000 cals ..
wednesday's counts. via MFP
Calories Carbs Fat ProteinSugar Fibe Totals 3,356 288 170 177 76 16 (MFP apparently subtracts 60% of the fiber from the calorie total. actual cal count is 3390.) Your Daily Goal 2,240 168 112 140 45 26 Remaining -1,116 -120 -58 -37 -31 10 Calories Carbs Fat Protein Sugar Fiber
ok, so 3390 cals (I know, doesn't really matter, but....)
288 carbs = 1152 * 60% = 691
177 protein = 708 * 50% = 354
170 fat = 1530 * 20% = 306
691 + 354 + 306 = 1351 cals..
No wonder I can't gain any weight, Not enough cals to overcome expendature. I know that I'm doing enough physical exercise to burn 1351 cal..
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Post by Girlrocker on Apr 11, 2014 13:12:33 GMT -5
I think adding carbs too will help but good ones. Complex carbs are the best for so many all-around beneficial reasons, lead reason being they are slow-metabolizing, the body take time to do the work, break it down, use it (like it does with protein). It's also very significant to note for you and anyone overall! where you are in the process; so for instance Marc, you're coming to the tail end of the estimated optimal maximum loss window at just over 18 months, Maryellen is at the year point and Scott is the newer kid at 6.5 months out (so early still!) The further out we are, the more this changes in terms of how much/what type of food you can eat, how it can be combined. Some people deal with tightness and restriction longer than others; most of us can eat a lot and eat frequently, every 2 hours is common for me, and I'm not quite 2.5 months out.
I eat sandwiches too, no trouble, except I have to limit condiments, stick with mostly the proteins, fats, light on the lettuce or they are too filling for me. No trouble with regular bread for me if it's piled with protein and fat. Try adding more substantive starch carbs like pasta (white, whole grain or brown), brown rice, white or sweet potatoes, and have a good ratio of that to protein when you eat, now that you can eat more. It's actually a 'take away' from what I learned reading the Zone and been very helpful. Clearly you can have your treats, so no need to stop those, and you'll see where you're at later, if your weight goes to higher number you don't want, than you scale the carbs (simple and complex) back.
It's really challenging to go from eating the way we did before surgery- zero clue about portions, density, etc. to being soooo restricted for so long, it's not a 'realistic' view of how life is big picture. And no way to know that in the early post-op time, comes with being further out. Marc, you are already working your way into life in the middle - maintenance. We have to do the same kind of trial/error food combining we did early on to find our 'new' balance at the phase, distance from surgery changes, gets longer.
Some people do remain tighter/restricted longer, whether their sleeve or just the high efficiency of the switch for their metabolism. My metabolism is so flatlined I did not deal with the rapid loss you and some others experience. But the DS worked for me, I was a stairstepper loser and didn't lose all my hoped for weight until 18 months out and now I have to watch myself more carefully. But you all have a good/likely shot at some bounceback down the line, the good kind, so if you're a little 'lighter' now, you will likely bounce up to where your body is meant to be.
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