indianamom
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Surgery Type: DS
Surgery Date: January 17, 2014
Surgeon: Dr. Vivek Prachand (Univ. of Chicago)
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Post by indianamom on Jan 21, 2014 10:18:19 GMT -5
Had my DS on 1/17. It was " uneventful". Left hospital on 1/19 - although they wanted to boot me on 1/18. I stayed on for the extra fluids, plus the weather was getting nasty. I have very little pain. I am bored out of my mind. I'm managing my fluids, food and meds. My husband keeps telling me "drink... drink". I appreciate the reminders but there is only so much room. . My big issue is the mental part of this journey. While my journey has been pretty good all things considering, the "what the hell did I do" "why couldn't I just eat less and exercise". "Is it worth it to lose weight" "have I messed with my anatomy and totally screwed myself up" etc. etc... I'm a fairly rationale person and when I reason it out, I know that this was a calculated decision. I know this is a journey... But the mental part is tough. You really can't appreciate that part of it until you walk it- at least that's how it is for me...
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Post by getupandgo on Jan 21, 2014 10:22:40 GMT -5
I sooo hear you about the mental part. I was saying those exact things! You really can't know until you have walked the path. The "buyer's remorse" was something I was not prepared for.
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Post by Girlrocker on Jan 21, 2014 10:42:13 GMT -5
Aww, I always want to hug every new post-op. The buyer's remorse, the anguish of what did I do, why can't I be normal, why couldn't I diet, feeling like a failure, all very normal feelings post-op. Especially for us women, we go through a hormonal release - no kidding. It's almost like a postpartum depression, you know? Being obese, miserable, envisioning life on the other side of that - and yes, walking through it are very different. The change is so dramatic, extreme and swift - you wake up and in one instant everything you know and is familiar is out the window. Very overwhelming. After my revision, I cried for two weeks daily.
Does this sound about right?
This is when it's important to be very kind to yourself and, baby yourself - especially the new insides - take baby steps. Like, instead of focusing on all the weight you have to lose, and thinking in mini-goals, it's the same for this healing process. And that's what this is - not just physical healing, but emotional and spiritual too. My angels/mentors in my first surgery helped me a lot with this. They told me to submerge in my recovery, embrace the rebirth part, hard as it was at times. You now have a big reset and a chance to be a healthier, better, happier you. So focus just on sipping, walking, healing. For the next 6-12 weeks (the first 3 months) that's what this is about. And getting in whatever nutrition you can. First you work up to 48oz of water/fluid, 30g protein and slowly you build that up. For this short time you are an eat-to-live person only and can concentrate on other things until you start to really reintroduce foods. When it's hard, remember how brave you are to take this step to save your health and your life. It's a badge of honor, not failure.
Remember that none of this now indicates how it will be long-term; there is a world of delicious food waiting for you and a new world of firsts. You'll start to remember all the things you have been reading about here and will have many ah-ha moments as you start to experience them. We never could be a healthy weight without some kind of major change to the way we eat and live; the surgery provides a firm hand to help us get there. Post as often as you need, vent it out, we're right here and will listen to every word, support you every step of the way.
Oh, and can I also tell you how wonderful it is that you have started this thread on My Story? Bravo for you indianamom! *edited only for typos since I hadn't had enough coffee yet*
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Post by tina9999 on Jan 21, 2014 15:40:00 GMT -5
I interestingly didn't get buyer's remorse. I think I had finally accepted it was this or I would never successfully lose and keep the weight off. I did and still do have shame about the fact that I COULDN'T do it on my own, but I'm working through that.
I'm a like like you indianamom in that my operation & initial recovery was so smooth. There is a big let down afterwards that I don't think a lot of people talk about. We jump through SO many hoops to get this done & 4 hours later it's over, but we're still essentially the same. We don't wake up thin. The food will come as a big adjustment too. Boy howdie, has it ever been an adjustment for me but I'm working through it & we'll all get there.
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Post by Girlrocker on Jan 21, 2014 15:51:12 GMT -5
I interestingly didn't get buyer's remorse. I think I had finally accepted it was this or I would never successfully lose and keep the weight off. I did and still do have shame about the fact that I COULDN'T do it on my own, but I'm working through that. I'm a like like you indianamom in that my operation & initial recovery was so smooth. There is a big let down afterwards that I don't think a lot of people talk about. We jump through SO many hoops to get this done & 4 hours later it's over, but we're still essentially the same. We don't wake up thin. The food will come as a big adjustment too. Boy howdie, has it ever been an adjustment for me but I'm working through it & we'll all get there. Tina yes, I think that's a good point. Making the decision to have surgery and then actually getting it calendared it such a herculean task, it's like this huge adrenaline crash post-op. I had a lot of anxiety after my revision, more so than after my RNY, and that's with a myriad of complications and additional surgery too, it was a mess. I was both thrilled to have a second chance and mortified as well as terrified. I kept it bottled up though because I was afraid to voice it aloud and give it 'life'. Not a practice I recommend. And I did feel cumbersome and horrible - still heavy, feeding tube, drains, I was miserable but determined. It really helped that I had been through bariatric surgery before, the recovery for the RNY and DS in the early weeks is essentialy the same and that helped me not have anxiety where nutrition and liquids were concerned. Plus as icked out as I was about the feeding tube initially, it made things easier.
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Post by kennyk on Jan 22, 2014 2:09:23 GMT -5
Buyers remorse here! By day 2 I thought I would die and half wanted to. I was sure I destroyed my shot at a normal life! It gets better! Kenny
Ps most remorse gone at normal weight and non diabetic 9 months later. Again most....
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indianamom
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Surgery Type: DS
Surgery Date: January 17, 2014
Surgeon: Dr. Vivek Prachand (Univ. of Chicago)
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Post by indianamom on Jan 22, 2014 20:45:24 GMT -5
Today I'm 5 days out. I'm doing okay. Yesterday I ate some puréed ground beef that stuck in the middle of my chest most of the day. Won't try that again for awhile. My diet consists of sf pudding, cottage cheese, liquids protein drinks ( already prepared), g2 cut in half with h20, sugar free hot cocoa, and mashed potatoes. Tried scrambled eggs twice- no thank you - at least for now. I am going to try some vegetable soup just broth and mushed/ puréed carrots) later. Something funny but not so funny happened Sunday night. I was sleeping and woke up out of a dead sleep. My husband was grouping to the store and asked if I needed anything.. I told him I needed something salty and to get me some chips and dip, etc. you get the idea. Then I woke up and said, NO, NO, NO. Old habits die hard. I was so dead asleep and was not able to think right. Yikes. I'm finding it easy to give myself my lovenox shots - it really doesn't hurt as Long as I pinch the skin tight and do it straight on and quick. Drinking fluids is an issue. I'm doing it the best I can... I feel like that's all I do all day. I did some minor work today from home in my chair and it's easy to forget about drinking. So important, I know. I have no pain except a little pulling when I move this or that way. I'm sleeping in my memory foam bed and walking stairs. Have been since day 2 home. Actually, there is one thing that aches and has since the start. My knees. I don't know if they strapped me down too tight while I was out or what but they are sore. Not my legs, just my knees. The getting into the groove is the hard part. I'm taking a good gummie multivitamin and going slow with it. Doctor wants me to add vitamins over next couple of weeks. Today was the first day my urine had any really tinge of yellow. Again, Keeping on the fluids is key and it's tough... Probably the toughest for me now.. I guess I'm a "work in progress". . I'm going to the movies with my husband this weekend to get out a little bit.... If we have a sitter. My mom, bless her heart, keeps saying, " no your not" to pretty much all I try to do. Day- time TV is awful and I'm going crazy. I'm not going back to work yet, but I was much happier doing a little work than watching the 8th hour rerun of ncis ( which I love.. Mark Harmon..... Oh my.... Sorry for my rambling. Hope everyone is well.
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Post by fullhousemom on Jan 23, 2014 8:39:42 GMT -5
Sometimes getting out is just what you need more for your mental recovery than your physical recovery. Its tough for us Northerners this time of the year. I remember being a little apprehensive walking across the street to watch my boys play soccer (we live by the school). After, I went to one of the boys' football games. It was a little scary at first, but it made me feel so NORMAL. At that point, no one knew I had WLS and you certainly couldn't tell.
It sounds like you are doing great. Your dream was funny and took me back to those summer nights when "chips and dip" would be called "dinner." I can eat that stuff now in moderation, but the after effects I can do without. And quite frankly, I don't even miss it!
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Post by Girlrocker on Jan 23, 2014 10:41:28 GMT -5
Good morning! You sound really good overall, a very normal post-op progression and all it's 'weird' to go with it. Sipping is definitely a day-long thing, in fact, I felt like my whole day was consumed with sipping and trying to get in protein. That's about right this early post op, and that will continue to change as you get further out. I always had a small water botte by my side at all times so I could just 'do it'. Eventually that small bottle became 24oz, than 48oz and I was gulping and guzzling again. I also made sure it was the first thing I did when I woke up. While everyone varies in what agrees/disagrees, way too soon for super dense proteins, even ground. Pudding, cottage cheese, protein drinks - pretty on target at this point. I lived on about 5-6 things for nearly 12 weeks. I had to play around with eggs, sometimes scrambled, sometimes over medium, sometimes hard boiled. SF pudding, cottage cheese, tomato soup with tofu and parmesean cheese pureed into it (only soup I could stand for awhile), hummus, sugar free jello and popsicles, peanubutter, saltines (helped with my nausea) That was it until I started adding foods and then eased into proteins like lean deli meat, cheese, Boca and Garden bugers/chikn' patties dipped in ranch, ketchup. Also, you need to switch out your mutli from a gummie, gummies don't work for our plumbing, a chewable would be better if you can't swallow yet. Same for calcium citrate. You won't hurt yourself, you just wont' get the nutrients. You're doing really well and I'm glad, again, you stared a My Story thread I think getting to a movie is a perfect idea, you deserve a break!
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indianamom
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Surgery Type: DS
Surgery Date: January 17, 2014
Surgeon: Dr. Vivek Prachand (Univ. of Chicago)
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Post by indianamom on Jan 23, 2014 20:21:03 GMT -5
Thanks for the info on the vitamins. My multis I bought originally are two big right now and mixing them crushed in stuff makes me want to throw up. I will try again. I bought cal citrate from vitalady. Three chewable horse pills flavored like chalky cinnamon. I'm working on it.... Everything is super sweet. Even protein powder. I'm experimenting and will find one that fits right for now. I have not had any issues with milk so Far so I'm drinking a little for hydration and protein. I know I can have fat, but what we have is low fat chocolate milk. I worry about too many carbs, but not right now it's more important toI try to stay hydrated, right? My assistant came to the house today for a few hours and we worked. I was in heaven. Next to being with my family, I love it. I think I need a hobby. Today was the first day that I felt like I "felt my staples". Not terribly bad, just odd. I'm worried about my poor husband. I think he is overwhelmed a little with helping me, our son and working. He has not complained at all and is doing a great job. Yesterday I found him going to his office with a jar of almost gone peanut butter and about 1/2jar of grape jelly poured into it. He is under stress, I know, plus the weather and everything else has prevented him from going out and doing his long runs. In fact, I think the last time he ran was when we were on holiday right after Xmas. I hope things lighten up for him soon.
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indianamom
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Surgery Type: DS
Surgery Date: January 17, 2014
Surgeon: Dr. Vivek Prachand (Univ. of Chicago)
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Post by indianamom on Jan 25, 2014 19:45:04 GMT -5
Yesterday was one week. I'm doing well. Fluids are going a little easier. My knees hurt much less. I notice my plantar fascitis is gone. . I have had back pain a couple of times. Both times my lower back on both sides around the kidney area. It has occurred both times in the evening. I have been using a heating pad when it happens. My lips are a little dry today, so I think I need more hydration. I'm working on it. Sick of puréed food.... Looking forward to my doctor visit on Wednesday. Went to the movies today. It was fun and good to get out. Wanted pop but refrained. I do miss diet soda...
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Post by Girlrocker on Jan 25, 2014 20:59:26 GMT -5
One week already! You've made it through the worst of the post-op crud. Still healing and will be for awhile, so just hang in there. You probably do need more fluids, I got dry, chapped too. I was also sore in all sorts of weird places, because I couldn't sleep on my side or back for a long time, and my body was compensating, I hurt in places I had no idea existed. Heating pads helped, and for me, plain tylenol. All the werid tastses are normal right, this will get better week by week. Milk is fine, do not worry about carbs there, yes, hydration most important. Is water difficult for you? Have you tried anything else ,like cyrstal light? diet snapple? You do need more fluid than you will get with milk. I missed carbonation, but diet peach snapple helped, like that better for awhile than crystal light. Great that you got out for a movie, maybe once a week you should make sure you do something really good for yourself like that, to have a break from the hardship of surgery healing. I think it's pretty amazing you already did some work with your assistant, so you are doing really well. Your poor husband but this won't go on forever for you, you'll see big improvement week by week, the first couple of weeks are hands down the hardest. The first 3 months all trial/error and survival/healing and not much else, but you won't feel this bad for much longer. HANG in there, and congrats on one week, you're really doing great.
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indianamom
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Posts: 210
Surgery Type: DS
Surgery Date: January 17, 2014
Surgeon: Dr. Vivek Prachand (Univ. of Chicago)
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Post by indianamom on Jan 25, 2014 21:56:03 GMT -5
Girlrocker: thank you for the post. You raise a good point about carbs. My thinking with regard to the carbs, yes, I'm sorta watching them, but at one week out my bigger concern is hydration and getting whatever protein in me possible. Also, I'm not anywhere near 50 g carbs per day. As I get further out, I will limit the milk more.
I will try diet snapple. thank you. I have never had it. Crystal like is too sweet for me. To get electrolytes and hydrate I'm now cutting 2/3 h2o with 1/3 grape G2. Plain water a lot too but I really need some electrolytes it seems.
My husband - I have heard him running on the treadmill in the basement, as it is too frigid to run outdoors. That is a good sign.
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Post by Girlrocker on Jan 25, 2014 22:14:23 GMT -5
Of course you're nowhere near 50 carbs cuz you're a week post op and you're lucky if you can get in ounces of anything Be patient with yourself, you're doing all the right things. There is nothing fun about this but it's not the mirror of how it is long-term. Go with the flow, keep doing exactly what you're doing, experiment, find what works. Marvel in the short time you're an 'eat/drink to live' person, it's pretty weird, I know. The 'real' picture of what you can eat and how much fun it will be will come later, and it really will come. This is healing time. You're a mom you have to baby your brand new gut, it's like an infant - gentle, fluids, gradual to puree/soft more solid. I had to cut all my drinks too, or have them on a lot of ice. I couldn't deal with crushing pills, I used chewable multi and calcium citrate to get started until I could swallow more pills and work in the more. 50g carbs is meant as a guideline to use once you start eating, while you also keep track of your protein and water. Right now, most important to get in at leat 48oz of fluid and aim for 30g of protein. Walk, rest, repeat!
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Post by deedee484 on Jan 25, 2014 23:55:06 GMT -5
Great advice Sharyl! Sounds like you are already on your way to doing better and better Indianamom! I think you are doing great! Keep hanging in there and you will start seeing more normalcy in the next few weeks! Work on your fluids and protein...the rest will comme soon! I def know what you mean about the Diet pop...I miss mine too but I def don't want to add any more bloat to my belly! Haha well glad you made it through that first horrible MENTAL part! That was def the HARDEST part for me!! Now that you've conquered that...you will do fine!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 23:55:32 GMT -5
Thanks for the info on the vitamins. My multis I bought originally are two big right now and mixing them crushed in stuff makes me want to throw up. I will try again. I bought cal citrate from vitalady. Three chewable horse pills flavored like chalky cinnamon. I'm working on it.... Everything is super sweet. Even protein powder. I'm experimenting and will find one that fits right for now. I have not had any issues with milk so Far so I'm drinking a little for hydration and protein. I know I can have fat, but what we have is low fat chocolate milk. I worry about too many carbs, but not right now it's more important toI try to stay hydrated, right? My assistant came to the house today for a few hours and we worked. I was in heaven. Next to being with my family, I love it. I think I need a hobby. Today was the first day that I felt like I "felt my staples". Not terribly bad, just odd. I'm worried about my poor husband. I think he is overwhelmed a little with helping me, our son and working. He has not complained at all and is doing a great job. Yesterday I found him going to his office with a jar of almost gone peanut butter and about 1/2jar of grape jelly poured into it. He is under stress, I know, plus the weather and everything else has prevented him from going out and doing his long runs. In fact, I think the last time he ran was when we were on holiday right after Xmas. I hope things lighten up for him soon. Don't even worry about vitamins for another week or two, and then add one at a time. Right now your stomach needs to heal and you need to focus on getting liquids in. Like Sharyl said, it is way too early to be trying to eat any solid food..yes ground beef is solid food and frankly is still hard from me to eat at 4 months. Cream of wheat, oatmeal, greek yougurt, cottage cheese if it tastes and sits okay (it was gross to me at this point). Eggs, wait another week or two and when you do try it sunny side up so it more like soup (scrambled eggs are still very heavy and hard for me to eat). All this being said, you are fine and will learn along the way, Just focus on the 30/60/90 rule right now (at 30 days you should be getting in 30 grams of protein and liquid, at 60....60 of each and at 90 well 90 of each). As I was told you aren't going to be hurt if you can't get much protein in now. Liquids are the most important so if you can stomach the taste of protein drinks then you can kill two birds with one stone. Hang in there and you will get there!
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indianamom
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Surgery Type: DS
Surgery Date: January 17, 2014
Surgeon: Dr. Vivek Prachand (Univ. of Chicago)
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Post by indianamom on Jan 26, 2014 2:18:12 GMT -5
Trouble sleeping tonight. Read posts from when others had this problem. Took Benadryl. Husband is rubbing lotion on my feet to relax me. I also put a little lavender on my pillow. Now I will count sheep. .....
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Post by Taterweight on Jan 26, 2014 12:40:52 GMT -5
Sorry to hear. Hopefully, from the lack of subsequent posts, that did the trick and you got some rest! What a sweet husband you have.
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Post by Girlrocker on Jan 26, 2014 12:50:53 GMT -5
Hi, ugh, yes, sleeplessness also very typical during these early weeks, so much going on with your body healing and detoxing from all the anesthesia. I'd also like to note that it's a good idea still generate a separate thread any time you have specific questions, challenges - like "New post-op having trouble sleeping". My Story is very wonderful, and a great way to journal all that's going on; but sometimes those types of questions will get lost in a blog-format. When we post devoted threads to specific topics others can chime in and it's also easier to search when doing exactly as you did, page back for answers. Glad you found some, glad hubby got a run in on the treadmill downstairs and he sure does sound like a keeper!
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indianamom
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Surgery Type: DS
Surgery Date: January 17, 2014
Surgeon: Dr. Vivek Prachand (Univ. of Chicago)
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Post by indianamom on Jan 26, 2014 12:52:16 GMT -5
I did finally get sleep. I'm a little dehydrated so I'm hitting fluids as hard as possible. Going out today to run some errands and see my parents. We will see how this adventure goes!
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Post by Girlrocker on Jan 26, 2014 12:55:39 GMT -5
Good girl! And WOW, out running errands?! I swear, you're going to come back to this and read it and be amazed at how much you've been up/out/about in a WEEK. Its like Leonie when she was here in California, she actually went to the Getty Museum! Take it easy and don't overdo either, but it's good to get out and shopping for me was one of my favorite 'break up the crazy' activities because it also gave me the chance to walk. I do remember plopping in the furniture section at Target
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2014 12:57:26 GMT -5
Hon, try to take it easy and not over do it. Your body really does need a lot of rest during this time, so try to find a balance.
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Surgery Type: DS
Surgery Date: January 17, 2014
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Post by indianamom on Jan 26, 2014 20:38:18 GMT -5
I just went to costco. I bought a membership years ago and went once. My parents go there and I like some of the stuff I've seen. I walked with the cart until we put enough stuff in it to make it harder to push, then my husband and son took over. Then I went home, my husband carried everything in and put it away and I napped. Then off to see my folks for a couple hours. I'm tired but feel okay.
I do notice that my teeth hurt. First time since surgery. Not a sharp toothache pain, but a dull achy pain here and there in my mouth. My first thought was... Malnutrition... My teeth are falling out... Then I realized that I'm just one week out. LOL
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Post by deedee484 on Jan 26, 2014 20:45:51 GMT -5
Glad you were able to get out for a bit! Mostly because of the weather I haven't been out in over two weeks! Getting a little stir crazy! Haha funny you mentioned your teeth hurting! I've never heard anyone mention this before but mine have been hurting on and off since I was a week out too!!! Wonder why?? At first I thought I was gonna get a major toothache but it never happened. Just spells where they hurt. Hmmmm.... Glad you are doing so well!
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Surgery Type: DS
Surgery Date: January 17, 2014
Surgeon: Dr. Vivek Prachand (Univ. of Chicago)
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Post by indianamom on Jan 29, 2014 23:40:51 GMT -5
Went to see Dr. Prachand today. What a terrific bedside manner. He upgraded me to soft low fiber food for a month. Said I was good to go back to work, start some exercise, take a hot bath, travel, etc., etc.
I spent most of the day in Chicago for my appointment, getting blood work done for something un-DS related, and ran one errand. Took my kid to practice too. I had sloppy joe for dinner. Had to go REALLY slow but yummy!
Enjoying syntax fuzzy navel in the a.m.
Took a nice hot bath in an oversized tub tonight.... Was wonderful....
Just relaxed and rested the remainder of the night...
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Post by indianamom on Feb 2, 2014 13:33:33 GMT -5
I'm doing well. Started my vitamins. Done with lovenox shots. My biggest struggle is still eating and debilitating chest pain. My brain is not catching up with my mouth... I struggle with eating too fast and can eat about 1/4 cup at a time. Sf popcicles have been terrific for me. They go down easy and provide some hydration. I have no real Problems with drinking, except I want diet soda!!! All the fruity waters are yuck to me.., way too sweet. Water is a change but I'm managing it okay.
I have a lot of thick mucusy saliva coming up when I occasionally cough. My guess it is acid. I'm taking a pill every date for acid.... I don't know if this is just an adjustment phase or if I need more medicine per day. I will monitor and follow- up with my doctor as needed.
Struggling to get my protein in... Found another protein powder that is pretty good. It is by proenzyme and is called. Chocolate cake. It does taste a little like cake batter... But what I really like is no aftertaste and no big clumps. It is more expensive at $49.00, but well worth it for the variety and taste.
Tomorrow I go to work part-time. I'm curious to see what my desk looks like. I'm packing my food and supplies... I have to give this work thing some practice before I actually start seeing clients again...
I'm sleeping pretty good now too.
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Post by mistercy on Feb 2, 2014 18:24:47 GMT -5
Wow, going back to work after two weeks - take it easy there! Smart to start part time and work your way back into the fray! Wishing you luck, indianamom!
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Post by indianamom on Feb 2, 2014 18:32:29 GMT -5
I have a desk job... I'm bored to death at home. I'm worried about how things are there and it's time to start getting into the groove again.
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Post by tina9999 on Feb 2, 2014 19:32:57 GMT -5
I think you're doing great & your recovery & experience with the foods mirrors my own.
I think you also have a really great attitude that will help you out along the way. Keep up the great work!
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Post by Girlrocker on Feb 3, 2014 2:42:52 GMT -5
Wow, your progress in two weeks is really great; you sound very grounded and focused on doing what you need to make it work in this early recovery time. And you had a bubble bath and a trip to my native city! Big wow going back to work. Glad it's sedentary and part time to ease in, good chance you'll get tired You sound like you know yourself pretty well, and I have to try not to be too much a mama, but do make sure you stay rested, hydrated and such. Report back on how your first day goes!
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