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Post by bb212 on Oct 12, 2013 19:36:54 GMT -5
They don't list the training for most of them - and most of them were trained overseas. 4 of them are DOs and not MDs. There is no indication of board certification, or hospital affiliation, for most of them. Their personal descriptions are ridiculous. And it is absurd to say that someone can't have an opinion without going....we choose (and judge) physicians all the time based on credentials, reputation, training, experience, affiliation, etc. No it's actually pretty legit that you don't get an opinion without going. It's like trashing the food at a restaurant you've never eaten at. I went to Dr. Stewart for my DS, you wanna trash talk him too?
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Post by newyorkbitch on Oct 12, 2013 19:42:28 GMT -5
I guess we have different criteria and standards.
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Post by bb212 on Oct 12, 2013 20:02:44 GMT -5
My standards are high. And when it comes to PCPs I'm quite concerned about how well they perform and care for me, especially with my DS.
I am extremely disappointed that I apparently can't recommend a practice I've had excellent experiences with without that recommendation being unwelcome by you, NYB. That's a pity, because good doctors are very hard to find, and their talent and quality as healers aren't determined by which medical school they attended.
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Post by newyorkbitch on Oct 12, 2013 20:07:06 GMT -5
There are many criteria involved. Training, experience, education, affiliation, referral network, hospital privileges...for me, I would never set foot in a practice where the physicians were not MDs, not board certified, not all trained in good programs, not affiliated with excellent hospitals...
The icing on the cake is the "Havening" work. Oy vey.
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Post by newyorkbitch on Oct 12, 2013 20:08:11 GMT -5
And what makes them good - what problems did they solve for you? And which physician did you see?
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Post by bb212 on Oct 12, 2013 20:18:40 GMT -5
You can look up Dr. Yaffe and Dr. Ruden's credentials online NYB, as well as their hospital affiliations. You can google it yourself.
I've already answered those other questions in an earlier post.
Why do you make people's PCP doctors recommendations so unwelcome NYB? DSers have a hard enough time finding good doctors who are concerned with their post-op health, why do you insist on making the sharing of that information more difficult, or even unpleasant?
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Post by newyorkbitch on Oct 12, 2013 20:20:54 GMT -5
Everyone can make up their own minds. I have every right (and reason) to share my impressions and opinions of doctors and their practices, based on the criteria I find valuable.
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Post by bb212 on Oct 12, 2013 20:59:15 GMT -5
Why would you want to prevent anyone who's had a DS from recommending a doctor who has provided excellent PCP care?
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Post by newyorkbitch on Oct 12, 2013 21:02:15 GMT -5
You can recommend anyone you want, and I can share my impressions. Same goes for everyone here.
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Post by bb212 on Oct 12, 2013 21:43:04 GMT -5
You have no impressions.
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Post by newyorkbitch on Oct 12, 2013 21:56:26 GMT -5
I do indeed have impressions - based on what the practice itself represents about itself, and based on the lack of sufficient credentials of the majority of its practitioners.
We'll have to agree to disagree.
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Post by bb212 on Oct 12, 2013 23:47:17 GMT -5
I'm in complete agreement with you in that that you don't know enough about the practice to make any judgement whatsoever.
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Post by newyorkbitch on Oct 13, 2013 5:52:33 GMT -5
We'll have to agree to disagree. I know enough to know I would never consider going there.
People here give opinions about surgeons all the time, even if they haven't had surgery with them. Based on all kinds of factors. I appreciate that.
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Post by bb212 on Oct 13, 2013 11:50:54 GMT -5
I'm not sure where you got that impression that we're talking about surgeons, we're talking about recommendations for WLS friendly PCPs.
Seeing as you have no valid input on my Dr recommendations, there's nothing for us to disagree about. However, considering that recommendations of Mt. Sinai and Lennox Hill bd. certified doctors with 30+ years of experience who oversee other MDs, DOs, PAs to handle less critical matters aren't welcome here by you, I don't know what the point of this entire web community is if we can't share info with DSers without receiving flack. A failed web-search on your part doesn't give you airs to play gatekeeper. I'm very disappointed in you NYB, you're making this a hostile place to recommend good doctors who take WLS patient's needs seriously. I just hope that others in the Tri State Area aren't discouraged from recommending those who have provided them with excellent care for fear retaliation from you.
If people have had a personal experience with a bad doc and they give the heads up, I appreciate that too. But that's not what you're doing.
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Post by newyorkbitch on Oct 13, 2013 11:57:17 GMT -5
I am simply stating that acccording to my criteria and standards, that is not a practice I would consider. I am not sure what is hostile or "retaliatory" about that. Each person here can make up their own minds as they wish.
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Post by newyorkbitch on Oct 13, 2013 12:52:17 GMT -5
Neither Yaffe or Ruden is listed in the Mount Sinai directory or the Lenox Hill directory.
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Post by michellemj on Oct 14, 2013 8:09:55 GMT -5
My internist is Nina Priven, the practice is Westside Internal Medicine. Her partner, Iris Sherman is also terrific. She listens, she does what I ask, she talks things through with me. I also have a wonderful hematologist - Dr. Robert Klafter. Both Priven and Klafter are Mt. Sinai affiliated. I can also personally vet for Nina Priven. She is simply wonderful. Appointments are easy to get and she is always on time. I gave her a list of labs I wanted drawn and she didn't even bat an eye. I, too, am a bit biased about where I receive my care. My physicians need to be board certified and affiliated with great hospitals. Given the amazing hospitals in NYC, there's no need to accept anything less.
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Post by newyorkbitch on Oct 14, 2013 8:27:06 GMT -5
And I think every physician in a practice needs to be. You never know who is going to be on call when you have a real need.
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Post by kennyk on Oct 14, 2013 8:32:55 GMT -5
There are lots of feelings on this, I used Mount Sinai, my sister in law ( from Connecticut) was like ewww when she visited this is why I went to Sudan, in north Carolina. But I do realize I did get lucky, and the ostrich approach worked for me. Thank god I am not depending on it for my after care! K
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Post by michellemj on Oct 14, 2013 9:02:56 GMT -5
There are lots of feelings on this, I used Mount Sinai, my sister in law ( from Connecticut) was like ewww when she visited this is why I went to Sudan, in north Carolina. But I do realize I did get lucky, and the ostrich approach worked for me. Thank god I am not depending on it for my after care! K The cutters at Sinai are perfectly fine. The NUT and NP and whoever else? Run. But that's pretty much norm for most of the surgeons here. That's why you'll read that you need to be your own advocate and listen to the vets here. But I'm also my own advocate for any other condition I have, not just my WLS.
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Post by aa on Oct 16, 2013 12:49:36 GMT -5
I'll weigh in on Yaffe/Ruden. I was a patient there for a long time (Ruden). I left. Too big, too much passing off to other doctors, PAs, etc. You were lucky if you got to see him and if so, it was a very short visit.
When they were in the tiny office (throughout the 90s) it was different. Ruden spent personal time with each patient & I felt it was a very good practice. When they moved to the giant office with tons of other staff; that's when I feel it changed. I stayed there for more years than I should have.
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Post by newyorkbitch on Oct 16, 2013 17:47:01 GMT -5
Dana Romero, who is Herron's NP, is smart and helpful.
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Post by pandykorn on Oct 16, 2013 19:11:29 GMT -5
I have an amazing PCP in Commack. By amazing i mean that she listens and she lets you steer the wheel. She writes out ALL my lab scripts in advance. You have to be in control but she lets you and helps you get everything done. SHe is open to listening and learning and honestly that is the most i wanted out of a PCP. She might not know everything about the DS but neither should she IMO.... she is just a great doctor. PM for her info if you like.
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Post by MsVee on Oct 17, 2013 4:57:46 GMT -5
I live in Greenlawn. May I please have the name of your doctor?
MsVee
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Post by kennyk on Oct 17, 2013 5:33:06 GMT -5
Love Dana Romero at Mt Sinai. Patient, helpful, Sincerly concerned. The NUT, Mimi is also very caring, I think just needs a little more experience to realize that DS requires a different perspective.
Pandy, I would be very interested if she has more than a basic understanding etc. of the DS. Thanks for the recommend!
MsVee, a bunch of us are going to mt. Sinai. Tonight for support, meeting and who am I kidding, probably food. Would be great if you would like to come with! Kenny
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Post by newyorkbitch on Oct 17, 2013 7:12:54 GMT -5
Kenny you DO NOT need a PCP that understands the DS. That is YOUR JOB.
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Post by kennyk on Oct 17, 2013 7:23:02 GMT -5
It can't hurt!
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Post by PrettyGirlBounce on Oct 17, 2013 21:51:17 GMT -5
I have an amazing PCP in Commack. By amazing i mean that she listens and she lets you steer the wheel. She writes out ALL my lab scripts in advance. You have to be in control but she lets you and helps you get everything done. SHe is open to listening and learning and honestly that is the most i wanted out of a PCP. She might not know everything about the DS but neither should she IMO.... she is just a great doctor. PM for her info if you like. I feel like you are describing my PCP. She and I have such a great, strong relationship. We have gone through a lot together and she has ALWAYS been so proactive when I have concerns and totally open to suggestions. Although she was not familiar with the DS (who really is though? lol), she actually read the literature I provided and now gets the big picture on how the surgery works. Also similarly, she will order any labs or tests I want or need done, trusting my knowledge and research 100%. I just wanted to acknowledge how absolutely amazing it is to have such a relationship with your PCP. I am so grateful after reading some of the posts regarding the experiences of others.
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Post by nyuboi on Oct 18, 2013 14:46:02 GMT -5
I was refered to an Endocrinologist by dr. kini's Pa Dana. They are out of network and it will be a thousand dollars before labs. On a positive note, no appointment till nov. 20th so I have time to look in to an in network Dr. I am half thinking of evn a new pcp ( love my Dr but I need some DS understanding, I think) any ideas, suggestions, or thoughts? Kenny Btw long island preferable but that may just be wishfully thinking. I have a list of highly regarded PCPs for Nassau county and Suffolk that I can share with you. I think you are going to have to educate any PCP though -- I had to bring diagrams and explanations. I like EN's: "Sleeve gastrectomy with a very long limb intestinal bypass." Listen to everyone on here giving you advice about the vitamins and explaining the malabsorption to PCP. Both you and the PCP should be reviewing your labwork knowing what to watch out for, but most of this will fall on you.
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Post by brooklyngirl on Oct 18, 2013 15:51:12 GMT -5
While we're on the subject... Anyone know of any good docs in Brooklyn, Staten Island or queens? I'd even do Nassau if you have some there Paul. My PCP is a nimrod and it's just not practical for me to drive into the city during the day with the tolls, traffic and worst of all PARKING
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