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Post by Fancypants on Jul 26, 2013 17:45:54 GMT -5
Got VSG May 19th...Hadda have an old lapband out in January & had so many adhesions couldn't get sleeve then...goin on 2 months plus & have had no responses like I've seen on various boards...never had or have any nausea, discomfort, vomitting, lack of appetite, etc.! I feel like I had nothing done and would kill for some nausea instead of hunger!! Feeling a lot like a failure and embarrassed to go to 3 month check up in September...when I told the team I still feel hunger, etc. I was told I was probably just thirsty & my body was probably just holding onto calories so I wouldn't lose weight too fast!! Confused, dazed and depressed...hope someone may have some insight, advice or info related to my unusual physical responses after surgery...no fun feeling alone out there!
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Post by Fancypants on Jul 26, 2013 17:48:00 GMT -5
P.S. Haven't lost a pound!
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Post by larra on Jul 26, 2013 19:51:08 GMT -5
I'm a DS person myself so can't speak from personal experience with VSG as a stand alone, but I've certainly seen posts by others who never did lose much weight and who never lost that sense of hunger. And frankly, that crap about how you are really thirsty and not hungry sounds like stuff I used to hear at WW meetings back in the day. It wasn't true then, either.
Not every VSG works (though some do). Not every VSG is done correctly (though I hope most are). Maybe there was interference from scar tissue from your prior surgery. I don't know. But I definitely think you should go to that follow-up apt and not just slink off into the darkness in shame, make sure the surgeon and not just "the team" knows about your lack of progress, and see if he would order any kind of work-up to assess your VSG for size and configuration.
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Post by bagaof4 on Jul 26, 2013 19:51:29 GMT -5
I'm sorry to hear your frustration! You are most definitely not alone here. I have no experience with a band or VSG, but I have read that revision patients often do lose more slowly. Two months out is still pretty early and I'm sure there could be several reasons for this. How much do you still have to lose? The closer to goal weight, the slower you lose as well. Maybe if you give some stats, that might help someone with more experience chime in! (((Hugs))))
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Post by PrettyGirlBounce on Jul 26, 2013 20:53:50 GMT -5
Hi there. Sorry you are having troubles - it is never fun!
Did your surgeon tell you what size of sleeve he gave you? Generally, most surgeons use a tool called a "bougie" to make the sleeve. There are various sizes of bougies and each yield a different result in size and how much volume your sleeve can hold. If you haven't asked him/her, do so. It will be in your operating report. You need this info immediately.
Am I correct in reading that you have absolutely no restriction on how much you can eat volume-wise? This sounds strange in and of itself.
Anyhow, hopefully some of the vets can chime in here and help you.
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Post by Fancypants on Jul 26, 2013 21:19:34 GMT -5
Thanx for your response...it's a good idea to find out bout sleeve size...I remember him saying he had a hard time due to my adhesions so perhaps this may impact on the size he chose...unfortunately I could probably eat as much as I wanted to, in answering your question, and I feel like I had no surgery at all...my experience seems to be unique but not in a good way...again, I appreciate your help and hope more people can advise me as you have.
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Post by Fancypants on Jul 26, 2013 21:28:51 GMT -5
Thank you all sooooo much for your advice...after reading these thoughtful and kind responses I feel hopeful and determined now...I now WILL NOT slink off into darkness, lol, I'm gonna show up and ask a lotta questions...hugs to all!!
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Post by larra on Jul 26, 2013 21:32:17 GMT -5
Good for you! Be prepared to be blamed, and do not accept that blame. The VSG works via restriction alone (and some help from reduced ghrelin). That's it. So, if your operation did not provide you with restriction, there is no reason that it would work.
So go to that follow-up, and start thinking now about consulting, if necessary, with one of the revision experts you will read a lot about on this website for a second opinion.
Larra
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Post by Fancypants on Jul 27, 2013 14:39:00 GMT -5
So true Marta...why didn't I think of that?? lol...feeling so much better after reading all your responses...I'll keep reading & keep you posted guys!
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Post by PrettyGirlBounce on Jul 27, 2013 15:53:17 GMT -5
Also, what does a typical day's worth of food look like for you? If you provide us with a sample menu of what you are eating, perhaps some of us can take a look at that aspect and give you some tips/ideas to kickstart your weight loss in the meantime while you are trying to figure out the other issues.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2013 23:05:24 GMT -5
What do you mean when you say you "feel hunger"?
In normal anatomical functioning, hunger is a normal physiological response by a body in need of nourishment. Wanting to never feel hunger again is not realistic. However, hunger should not be a form of suffering in normal functioning, either. If it works correctly, you get empty, so you get hungry, and you get nourishment. You then feel satiety and you're done till next time. No big deal.
If this is not what you mean by feeling hunger, what *do* you mean?
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Post by kennyk on Jul 28, 2013 6:12:05 GMT -5
I agree with Lisa(PGB) when I followed that advice and started using myfitnesspal and then sharing it here, a lot of info came my way and I passed a major food and weight stall. K
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Post by Fancypants on Jul 28, 2013 10:13:35 GMT -5
I think you're probably right.. like a lot of us, my food issues run deep...I'm an anylitical person and pride myself for gathering info, educating myself on every aspect and then apply that knowledge to obtain the best advantage possible. However, in this instance I find my self being (or wanting to be) oblivious to the theory of "head hunger" as I've seen it mentioned here...lol. As a nurse I find it easier to help others but never got the hang of helping myself...all your great advice is definitely providing "food" for thought, lol...thanx soooo much everyone...hope to read more and best wishes to all.
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Post by Fancypants on Jul 28, 2013 16:04:24 GMT -5
For my personal info, my highest weight is where I am which is 230, 5'4"...I drink a lotta water, 3 cups of coffee and have a very strong sweet tooth...eating fruit, protein shakes but feel so hungry yet, which is what brought me to my weight today...please share your daily menu, exercise advice and tips, thanx guys!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 18:16:59 GMT -5
I am not persuaded that there is such a thing as "head hunger." Yeah, people self medicate with food and engage in a variety of behaviors, but that whole "head hunger" thing? Meh, notsomuch IMNSHO. Hunger is only "in your head" insofar as the experience involves your brain assimilating info from your gut and making decisions and sending messages.
This might sound like I'm splitting hairs on the use of certain terms.
Here's the reason why I'm asking you to talk more about what you mean by "hunger": Quite a few DSers (self included) and the occasional VSGer talk about the dramatic change in the experience of "hunger" and "satiety" after surgery. For me, I discovered that the thing I called "hunger" before my DS was not what regular folks mean by "hunger." For me, it was, "If you get out of my way as I rush to the fridge, I might let you live." On the other side, "satiety" was a totally foreign concept. For me, "full" was, "I am stuffed to the gills, to the point that if I eat another bite I will puke, but I WANT MORE FOOD I AM STILL HUNGRY I WANT I WANT I WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
It was a bizarre drive, and it was NOT an emotional thing.
After the DS, that all changed. I experienced these weird sensations....And discovered that they were NORMAL sensations of hunger and satiety.
This is why I'm asking you what you mean when you say you feel hunger. Tell us more about what's happening. This could give clues to what's going on and we might be able to give you some more targeted feedback.
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Post by Fancypants on Jul 29, 2013 15:19:17 GMT -5
1st. I gotta tellya that from the 1st. nite of surgery I had NOTHING that anyone else had told me 2 expect...I felt hunger pangs & bummed cuz I couldn't have any liquids till fluoroscopy was done the nxt a.m. after that I drank everything on my tray & was still hungry...I had no gas, no real pain & was just bout jogging around halls...went home day after surgery. I was waiting patiently to feel the nausea, discomfort and could barely wait to have to be "FORCED," to "please eat something!!!" Never happened...when I eat, within 15 to 45 minutes I feel hunger...my tummy sometimes growls, I feel as if I didn't eat enuf or I wouldn't feel so hungry...also I don't feel full hardly ever & if I do its for a pretty short time! I can't find anything on whether many adhesions that were present from band & Doc mentioning that he hadda hard time due 2 them, if they impacts the procedure or or not? It's 2 months, 8 days & didn't lose or gain an ounce! Talk about feeling hopeless! Particularly when you're very much the odd duck (comparitively wise to others.) Thanx 4 your continued interest & willingness to help.....it means a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2013 20:49:36 GMT -5
Surgeons vary a lot in their skills and methods. Add to that the fact that you had a mess going on, and it's hard telling what you have now .
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