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Post by Avonlea on Dec 29, 2011 0:58:01 GMT -5
This won't work if there are only a few of us here. Anybody know any others who want to migrate or at least dual-post?
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Post by wanttolose on Dec 29, 2011 5:16:05 GMT -5
I was thinking the same. I am kind of not a VSGer yet but on the way!
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Post by redbabe08 on Dec 29, 2011 8:50:05 GMT -5
start a topic
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2011 8:57:07 GMT -5
this is a toughie - lots of folks are very happy in the maintenance group, I think. nothing wrong with that except it makes more money for you know who.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2011 15:35:59 GMT -5
I was posting an occasional message over there until I self-deleted.. I do think in time, more will come, and especially after the full-on site goes live. That may be a while, but it will happen.
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Post by Avonlea on Dec 29, 2011 16:58:43 GMT -5
I think more will come, too. Also, I think VSGers tend to drop off the boards more than DSers, for a variety of reasons.
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Post by ruggie on Dec 30, 2011 13:44:04 GMT -5
So I'm pretty sure this won't be well received, but I wanted to leave honest and candid feedback. I've been lurking around the last week, reading articles both here and on OH. I think there's two main things that keep me from switching over:
1) Forum software. This software is pretty awful. Don't get me wrong, OH's software is bad enough, but this is actually worse. It's just kludgy. I know, I must be a forum sob, but it lessens the experience. Text formatting isn't even WYSIWYG, it's abbreviated BBcode.
2) Combative community. You totally have my support on issues of censorship and such, but it's not a license to behave poorly. I know you guys are burnt from OH, but is it necessary to keep spamming posts "Why was my thread deleted" like So Blessed did just a few minutes ago.... every day? You know why it's been deleted, whether it's right or not. Stop feigning surprise when they delete it. I login to these forums for support - not to choose a side of an internet forum. Quite frankly, some of the posts here are downright catty - just calling out individual members and openly mocking them. I suppose it's a return to junior high for some. In Goodkel's recent post in the main forum to tone-down OH bashing, a member replies "well is it ok to keep bashing OH members?" Hey, like I said, I'm not up for censorship, but I'm also not up for this sort-of "Us versus Them" mentality. I would argue you'd capture more flies with honey than vinegar, or however that phrase goes. We're all patients, we've all felt the horrible sting of guilt and failure, and we've chosen or are choosing to overcome this through surgery - ultimately, this should unite us, not divide us.
Love you all, happy New Year!
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Post by Avonlea on Dec 30, 2011 16:17:15 GMT -5
I just looked, and if you're thinking about the post I found, the person who replied wanted OH-member bashing to go to the dead horse thread as well. She wasn't trying to keep it alive on the main board. I think you mischaracterized what she said by quite a bit.
I'm not sure there ever will be a vibrant VSG community on either board the way there is a DS community. The VSGers tend to drift off into the sunset, I think for a variety of reasons. I have always thought of the VSG board on OH as more anemic than the DS board, and I think it's because there just isn't as strong a permanent community.
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Post by Avonlea on Dec 30, 2011 16:18:06 GMT -5
I think this is better software, myself. I absolutely hated the OH user interface, however. This feels much cleaner to me.
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Post by jillybean720 on Dec 30, 2011 21:55:30 GMT -5
1) Forum software. This software is pretty awful. Don't get me wrong, OH's software is bad enough, but this is actually worse. It's just kludgy. I know, I must be a forum sob, but it lessens the experience. Text formatting isn't even WYSIWYG, it's abbreviated BBcode. This current setup is temporary just t oget us started and provide a non-OH place for those who wanted/needed it. A new home with different layout/features is currently in the works.
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Post by ruggie on Dec 30, 2011 22:28:49 GMT -5
1) Forum software. This software is pretty awful. Don't get me wrong, OH's software is bad enough, but this is actually worse. It's just kludgy. I know, I must be a forum sob, but it lessens the experience. Text formatting isn't even WYSIWYG, it's abbreviated BBcode. This current setup is temporary just t oget us started and provide a non-OH place for those who wanted/needed it. A new home with different layout/features is currently in the works. Delightful. I'd love to see the new forum when it's online.
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Post by julyxo84 on Dec 30, 2011 22:44:12 GMT -5
*waves* im a vsg-er and i lurk here
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Post by msbatt on Dec 31, 2011 0:17:23 GMT -5
Ruggie, you make some very valid points.
I've been through this once before---a new board was started when OH management banned a bunch of people, censored a bunch more, etc. That site did become nothing but OH-bashing, and it eventually died, when people simply got tired of bashing OH.
I hope and expect this one to do better, for a lot of reasons. I won't go into them in detail, but the fact that this site actively encourages posters with ALL forms of WLS is one. The fact that this site has ambitions to be not merely a message board but also a facr-filled site is another.
Give us time---we're working on it!
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Post by issaquahmom578 on Dec 31, 2011 3:07:46 GMT -5
I'm a newby here. I asked a question on one of the boards at OH in order to gather information for my husband. I was sent a PM from an OH member directing me to this forum.
I am here for:
1. Help with my own VSG. 2. Offer advice to others who have experienced bad Lap-Band issues. 3. Find recommendations for my hubby for an awesome surgeon in Puget Sound.
All I will say about OH is I feel more like a number than part of a group. I'm hoping this board will offer more support and help for those who really want it. As a newby and having NO idea what folks are talking about in regard to OH I'm kinda scared to get too active here in fear I will say or do something that the mass doesn't approve. I hope I'm proved wrong, but the negative vibes are pushing me away. Sorry
I'm just trying to help this forum with the perspective of someone who is new here and has no association with the issues on OH.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2011 3:11:29 GMT -5
I agree with Ms.Batt, ruggie does make some valid points. I think that the fact that this place is less than a month old gives the group a pass. It also goes to say that given the nature of why some people thought this new place was needed, it does not surpise me to see some lashing out against another site. The way things were handled by OH can be likened to an arrogant significant other who got tired of the relationship. Is it any wonder that some of us are left feeling like jilted persons who are dealing with hurt and confusion? I think not.
Yeah, there is some growing to be done and I am confident there is the brain power and desire amongst the membership to get'er done. Time heals all wounds and if we're lucky, we'll see some heels get wounded to the degree that is deserved.
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Post by renegadeorange on Dec 31, 2011 8:50:57 GMT -5
I'm a newby here. I asked a question on one of the boards at OH in order to gather information for my husband. I was sent a PM from an OH member directing me to this forum. I am here for: 1. Help with my own VSG. 2. Offer advice to others who have experienced bad Lap-Band issues. 3. Find recommendations for my hubby for an awesome surgeon in Puget Sound. All I will say about OH is I feel more like a number than part of a group. I'm hoping this board will offer more support and help for those who really want it. As a newby and having NO idea what folks are talking about in regard to OH I'm kinda scared to get too active here in fear I will say or do something that the mass doesn't approve. I hope I'm proved wrong, but the negative vibes are pushing me away. Sorry I'm just trying to help this forum with the perspective of someone who is new here and has no association with the issues on OH. Welcome, Carrie! I hope that you will find the support that you need here. There is also a failed lapbands group that you may want to check out.
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Post by renegadeorange on Dec 31, 2011 8:55:10 GMT -5
Ruggie- In regards to "stealing" members away from OH, that isn't really what the goal is. Have you seen the advice that's over there now? We're wanting a community that has active members from all surgery types, not just DSers. I think you took at least 2 of those postings the wrong way. In regards to what you are seeing as immature comments, people were fed up and still are fed up. It will calm down and that whole drama will die down. Just give it some time for wounds to heal. They've already tried to move those postings from the main board to the rants and raves area to not irk other members who aren't interested. We're all still learning here on this new forum. Just have some patience. You get out of it what you put into it! I hope you'll stick around to see the new forum software, too. It's much more user friendly.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2011 9:31:00 GMT -5
I also think things will settle down and am very excited about the coming changes. I don't care so much about a "VSG community" - when I talk to the majority of VSGers (like on the OH maint group) I am usually not too interested. for myself, while I am more than happy to talk to pre-ops and early outs and answer questions, support for ME means people of whatever surgery who want to talk about the Head Stuff and the rest of Real Life. I am sort of "over" talking about my VSG - at least the way I wanted to in the first year or whatever it was. the further out I get, the more like a non op I feel. I think this is GOOD & hope I explained myself ok here. only got a few hours of sleep last night so I'm not at my best this morning!
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Post by redbabe08 on Dec 31, 2011 9:38:43 GMT -5
I also think things will settle down and am very excited about the coming changes. I don't care so much about a "VSG community" - when I talk to the majority of VSGers (like on the OH maint group) I am usually not too interested. for myself, while I am more than happy to talk to pre-ops and early outs and answer questions, support for ME means people of whatever surgery who want to talk about the Head Stuff and the rest of Real Life. I am sort of "over" talking about my VSG - at least the way I wanted to in the first year or whatever it was. the further out I get, the more like a non op I feel. I think this is GOOD & hope I explained myself ok here. only got a few hours of sleep last night so I'm not at my best this morning! i understand what your saying. @oh, i'm a fish out of water on the VSG board & very rarely post. i had to revise because of complications from the band - not so much to lose a lot of weight, i'm back to goal. i've lived with WLS since 2007 - so, while i like to read all stages & maintenance stories .... it's not all i care to engage in, every day all day.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2011 10:23:23 GMT -5
I want to talk about everything else - which is what I try to do now instead of Recreational Eating. Everything Else. and, in the spirit of randomness..
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Post by jet on Dec 31, 2011 13:00:45 GMT -5
I'm here, but I can't figure out how to upload my damn avatar, which has stopped me from posting much. I'm the one with the adorable little boy as my avatar. ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2011 13:59:05 GMT -5
I'm here, but I can't figure out how to upload my damn avatar, which has stopped me from posting much. I'm the one with the adorable little boy as my avatar. ;-) and THERE he is! and you, good to see you!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2012 14:00:01 GMT -5
So I'm pretty sure this won't be well received, but I wanted to leave honest and candid feedback. I've been lurking around the last week, reading articles both here and on OH. I think there's two main things that keep me from switching over: 1) Forum software. This software is pretty awful. Don't get me wrong, OH's software is bad enough, but this is actually worse. It's just kludgy. I know, I must be a forum sob, but it lessens the experience. Text formatting isn't even WYSIWYG, it's abbreviated BBcode. 2) Combative community. You totally have my support on issues of censorship and such, but it's not a license to behave poorly. I know you guys are burnt from OH, but is it necessary to keep spamming posts "Why was my thread deleted" like So Blessed did just a few minutes ago.... every day? You know why it's been deleted, whether it's right or not. Stop feigning surprise when they delete it. I login to these forums for support - not to choose a side of an internet forum. Quite frankly, some of the posts here are downright catty - just calling out individual members and openly mocking them. I suppose it's a return to junior high for some. In Goodkel's recent post in the main forum to tone-down OH bashing, a member replies "well is it ok to keep bashing OH members?" Hey, like I said, I'm not up for censorship, but I'm also not up for this sort-of "Us versus Them" mentality. I would argue you'd capture more flies with honey than vinegar, or however that phrase goes. We're all patients, we've all felt the horrible sting of guilt and failure, and we've chosen or are choosing to overcome this through surgery - ultimately, this should unite us, not divide us. Love you all, happy New Year! Your decision to not participate here certainly gets my support.
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Post by paige on Jan 3, 2012 15:51:56 GMT -5
Hey guys! I just heard about this place...glad to see familiar faces from OH!
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Post by Carolyn H. on Jan 5, 2012 19:27:18 GMT -5
I'm apparently not smart enough (or too ADD) to bring my Avatar over I find the site a little bit harder to navigate than OH, and I forget to login to see responses to posts. Othewise, it's all good:)
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Post by ubergrrl on Jan 6, 2012 18:32:52 GMT -5
I'm here too... lurking. I don't post a whole lot on the VSG board. Was pretty active in 07/08 during my lapband adventure time. I have come over here a couple times and there just wasn't much going on. But looks to be more now. Also I really effing hate the format of this forum. I also hate OH but I guess I am kind of a geek snob working in tech my whole life. Really I come here for the words not the format so I'll try to get over it. Anyway hi.
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Post by Happy966 on Jan 9, 2012 9:40:28 GMT -5
Like multiple pet Mom, I am way more interested in the head stuff. After about 4 months I think I've grasped a lot of the eating information I need, even though it's still a work in progress. That is really surgery independent.
I've really settled into my "new normal" in many ways, but that new normal still includes a big ol' dose of food issues and whacked out thinking. That part requires a lot of attention or I get complacent and start using food again. And getting back into the sugar is just the *endpoint* of using food for me. It starts a lot earlier than that so I have to be pretty vigilant. Reading and posting really helps.
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Post by laurak on Jan 9, 2012 11:33:40 GMT -5
I am a vsger and i just found this site last night. I haven't had time to lurk around much, but I'm tired of the OH vsg and maintenance boards. Too many people obsessing over tenths of a pound...makes me crazy. I just wanna talk about other things besides if I weigh 134.2 or 133.8 today. Who the hell cares.
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Post by Catie on Jan 9, 2012 19:06:16 GMT -5
Welcome Laura! Your post made me laugh. I completely agree.
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Post by move2lose on Jan 9, 2012 21:14:45 GMT -5
I've just joined here - I like that this board is private and people can't view posts unless they join. I hope it stays that way.
I had a VSG 20 April 2009, I have continued loosing just very very slowly and I have not got to goal yet. I have hypothyroid, PCOS, sleep apnea and fybromyalgia and have had a number of stressful health and life issues to deal with since surgery. I'm really motivated to get down to goal this year, working out really hard and going back to my first year diet, plus recording everything.
I am not interested in any board politics, surgery bashing or anything else other than weightloss and excercise...and OH does not seem the place it was in 2008 when I joined and I am SO SICK of all the posts about stalling for 10 days after loosing 40lbs in the first six weeks!!! I have found that many of the VSG'ers on OH post in groups rather than the main VSG or wls forums for the same reason.
I'm recording stuff and keeping a blog over at OH so will probably have to keep positng on both boards until this board gets those features as well.
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