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Post by MEZ on Mar 5, 2012 15:06:28 GMT -5
I have my 3 month post-op with the NUT tomorrow, and I can already hear her telling me to get off the protein shakes and onto more food.  However, I absolutely cannot eat in the morning for whatever reason. So I have a 2-scoop About Time protein shake. At least I'm getting some calories (daily average is around 800/900) and making sure I get my protein. I've tried at various times (and try, try again about every 2 weeks) to eat in the morning. Things I can otherwise eat later in the day just make me nauseous in the morning, to the point where I sometimes have to go lie down, or give up and throw up. Needless to say, I only do this experimenting on the weekend. Eggs, no way. Cottage cheese, nuh uh. Kay's naturals protein cereal, nope. So I drink my protein shake on the way to work, and then eat something around 10 a.m. I don't see a problem with this. Anyone else have a pouch so picky? I've named mine Napoleon. He's small, and very opinionated. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2012 15:12:11 GMT -5
Do you really have to tell them WHAT you eat (or drink) for breakfast or just that you do get protein in the morning and this is how much protein you get per day.
Liz
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Post by reinventingangela on Mar 5, 2012 15:17:30 GMT -5
I wouldnt worry about it, I see plenty of long term successful DSers start their day with liquid protein.
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Post by michellemj on Mar 5, 2012 15:21:02 GMT -5
Meh. I've never understood why it matters to NUTs how you get your protein in. I hate food first thing in the AM and I start my day with a single or double scoop protein shake. Keeps me full for a few hours, gets something in my system and more importantly, keeps my protein numbers in correct range. Even though I'm a VSGer, I appear to have issues if I rely on protein from food alone so I NEED shakes to keep my numbers up.
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Post by MEZ on Mar 5, 2012 15:21:40 GMT -5
Liz - I have to keep a food log for at least a week prior to my appointment.
Did anyone else have issues eating in the morning? I'm hoping some day this will pass?
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Post by shellyac on Mar 5, 2012 15:25:25 GMT -5
From what I've heard many people with the band have a similar issue with not being able to eat first thing in the morning so if your NUT works with patients with all types of surgery you eating routine should be something that she should be familiar with. As long as you are getting the required amount of nutrition in, you sound like you're doing fine. Plus this could be an issue that gets better over time.
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Post by MEZ on Mar 5, 2012 15:46:32 GMT -5
Thank you, everyone! I'll keep on testing it every couple of weeks and maybe find something I can eat... I, personally, have no issue with the protein shake other than it gets expensive.  I think this is my final "required" visit with the NUT. |
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Post by So Blessed on Mar 5, 2012 15:47:49 GMT -5
I have to be up for at least a few hours before my pouch will tolerate solid food and I'm almost 7 years post op.
I have to start off with a warm beverage (typically coffee) and ease into food.
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Post by MEZ on Mar 5, 2012 15:50:11 GMT -5
Ooooh. Coffee. I can't wait until I can have coffee again.
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Post by missliss on Mar 5, 2012 17:03:12 GMT -5
I get up every morning at 5:00 a.m. in order to get everybody to school and me commute to work. But, I do not eat breakfast until 9 to 9:30 because my pouch is grouchy in the mornings. I start my day off with a small bottle of water followed by a big mug of coffee I take to work with me that I sip on while in route and finish when I get to work. I, then fix breakfast around 9 or so and do fine. I just have to give my pouch a few hours before putting food in. Otherwise I am nauseated. I am 8 years out from RNY.
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Post by vicky on Mar 5, 2012 17:16:10 GMT -5
I am over six years post op and have to be up for a few hours before I eat breakfast. I can handle a protein shake ONLY after a hot beverage.
We go to breakfast with family on Sunday morning and it is a huge struggle every single week to get my food down. Sigh.
They just need to start their day later so my belly is ready for an omelet!!
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Post by missliss on Mar 5, 2012 18:48:30 GMT -5
I am over six years post op and have to be up for a few hours before I eat breakfast. I can handle a protein shake ONLY after a hot beverage. We go to breakfast with family on Sunday morning and it is a huge struggle every single week to get my food down. Sigh. They just need to start their day later so my belly is ready for an omelet!! I feel your pain. My family likes breakfast and they like it early. So, they will comprimise and go to Huddle House or Waffle House at night sometimes so that I can get an omelet. LOL. |
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Post by MEZ on Mar 6, 2012 10:37:02 GMT -5
I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one. I have no issues with waiting until later to eat my breakfast in the long run, but right now I have to try to get in a bunch of little 1/4 cup - 1/2 cup "meals" in order to hit my calories, so I feel like I have to start early.
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Post by MEZ on Mar 6, 2012 10:38:06 GMT -5
In any event, I will talk to my NUT today and let her know that this is the only thing (protein shake) I can stomach in the morning other than water. I'm going to also ask her if I can have coffee again (they say 6 months, but I think it's for fear of dehydration) since I'm more than hitting my water requirements. Let's hope I can stomach coffee!
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Post by vanishingmom on Mar 6, 2012 11:13:41 GMT -5
Dina McBride taught me this really early on when I was having a hard time. Wake up just a few minutes earlier than you normally would in the morning. Make yourself a hot cup of tea and relax. I find that sometimes even coffee (non caffinated) works too. The warmth relaxes your belly. In about a week I was able to start eating small amounts of food in the morning. This morning I was able to eat left over steak after my tea |
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Post by MEZ on Mar 6, 2012 11:17:25 GMT -5
Thank you! I will have to try that this weekend. |
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Post by vanishingmom on Mar 6, 2012 11:30:20 GMT -5
Thank you! I will have to try that this weekend. You're welcome Just remember it's been months of doing this until I was actually able to get down that steak, start small. I dug up the email Dina sent me so I could give you all the advice she gave me. First off here's her link: livingthedslife.wordpress.com/ds-resources/eating/you-dont-have-to-be-hungry-to-need-to-eat/Second, up your water intake. 64oz is NOT enough for me. I drink about a gallon and a half a day. Seems like a lot but it's really not. Third... This is after I told her I was queasy as hell most mornings. Ahh I'll quote her: "I think it's a combination of dehydration and low blood sugar. I would like you to try putting aside the shakes for a couple of days. Yes - I know - the protein shake police will probably show up and have me arrested for aiding and abetting - but it's a little experiment we try when we find folks in your shoes... I want you to focus on getting a little protein-centric snack in once an hour - starting NOW" "I also make egg salad (I shred the eggs on the finest grate side of my box grater), and potato salad with lots of grated egg in it, and shred it into tuna salad, etc... Good. Here's the thing though - it may not be horrifically low - but it's lower than your system needs it to be right now. Your metabolism is in overdrive when you're an early post-op. The key to stabilizing it is a steady intake of good quality protein. Unfortunately - most of the shakes/powders, etc have stuff in them that can mess with your pancreas and stress out your system - some post-ops are super sensitive to this." After we talked for a while the snack ideas we came up with were an egg, some nuts, cheese, anything small full of protein once an hour. After about 2 weeks I felt better than I did pre-op even in the mornings! One last piece of advice, my stomach acid is worse in the morning so if I skipped my Prilosec it was OUT of control. Make sure you stick to that. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2012 11:48:54 GMT -5
Great advice here!
I have never been a morning eater- even pre-op. Anywhere from no appetite to a complete aversion has been the usual for me (the smell of my DH cooking eggs will sometimes turn my stomach!) My VSG didn't change it. So, my protein coffees first thing get me going, that and some water with chia seed (or without). After that goes down, then I can grab some meat or whatnot, but never first thing.
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Post by Ladytaz on Mar 6, 2012 22:54:53 GMT -5
I haven't eaten breakfast since day one. I have always started my day with a protein decaf, hot in the winter and cold in the warmer weather. Lately I have been having protein pudding or Greek yogurt in the morning but that is a new thing. I'm not adverse to eating in the morning. If I happen to go out to eat in the morning I have no problem with an omelet or some eggs and sausage with some fruit. I also had a spell where I would eat protein oatmeal for breakfast with a banana. I just go through periods where I eat the same things for my meals everyday and then I get bored and mix it up and get back into a different rut.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2012 23:05:53 GMT -5
I have my 3 month post-op with the NUT tomorrow, and I can already hear her telling me to get off the protein shakes and onto more food. However, I absolutely cannot eat in the morning for whatever reason. So I have a 2-scoop About Time protein shake. At least I'm getting some calories (daily average is around 800/900) and making sure I get my protein. I've tried at various times (and try, try again about every 2 weeks) to eat in the morning. Things I can otherwise eat later in the day just make me nauseous in the morning, to the point where I sometimes have to go lie down, or give up and throw up. Needless to say, I only do this experimenting on the weekend. Eggs, no way. Cottage cheese, nuh uh. Kay's naturals protein cereal, nope. So I drink my protein shake on the way to work, and then eat something around 10 a.m. I don't see a problem with this. Anyone else have a pouch so picky? I've named mine Napoleon. He's small, and very opinionated. I can't eat early in the morning either. My breakfast meal is usually around 9ish or so after I get to work. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2012 23:07:56 GMT -5
I have to be up for at least a few hours before my pouch will tolerate solid food and I'm almost 7 years post op. I have to start off with a warm beverage (typically coffee) and ease into food. Same here, until I get a hot drink in (and I can justify my coffee consumption this way *smile*) I can't even think about putting dense protein into my body. (7 years out also) |
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Post by lynn22 on Mar 7, 2012 12:29:19 GMT -5
I have found the Syntrax Nectar Cappuccino protein powder is a great way to start a morning--I heat some water in the microwave (about 10 oz) and stir it in a little at a time so it doesn't clump, and it's a gentle way to introduce your tummy to the early morning. If not, then just do a nice warm herbal tea and give protein a try later. There's no rigid requirements for time!
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Post by hala2215 on Mar 8, 2012 12:39:24 GMT -5
Like so many others RNY - I can't eat solid foods in the morning. I can drink hot drinks, and cool protein drinks. But food - solid food - no way. First year or 2 after so many trials - I gave up. I still had "food" - shakes in the morning and my nut agreed that this was better than not eating anything or getting sick every morning. Or getting nausea that then would prevent me from eating anything for most of the day.
Even now - I have to be really careful what and how much I can eat -drink in the morning. Some days - can do it, most days - no way.
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Post by MEZ on Mar 8, 2012 15:05:50 GMT -5
Surprisingly enough... my NUT was fine with my protein shake, but wants me to go from 2 scoops to one and use milk and see if I can do that (I can do 8 oz. of milk). No pressure to eat. Yay! Thanks to everyone for their feedback letting me know Napoleon is not the only pouch picky in the mornings.
Ellen
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Post by hala2215 on Mar 12, 2012 15:41:43 GMT -5
milk - 8 oz of milk has 12 oz of sugar. Some people do not have problem with that - but some do. I do. Too much liquid sugar.
Plus lactose. So watch for that.
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However, I absolutely cannot eat in the morning for whatever reason. So I have a 2-scoop About Time protein shake. At least I'm getting some calories (daily average is around 800/900) and making sure I get my protein.
