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Post by Neal R. on Dec 21, 2011 14:21:09 GMT -5
What is the difference between this Section and the Failed Band Section? I came over here because i like a lot of the people that defected over here. But it appears to be nothing but an opportunity to bash the band.
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Post by Heather on Dec 21, 2011 20:48:25 GMT -5
Give it time, a few of us here are successful band people including myself. I choose not to recommend the band, but I am not a basher.
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Post by pumpkin on Dec 21, 2011 23:33:36 GMT -5
What is the difference between this Section and the Failed Band Section? I came over here because i like a lot of the people that defected over here. But it appears to be nothing but an opportunity to bash the band. Neal, When I first posted here there was not a Failed Bands section. I asked Kel for that after I had posted over here. I'll go and ask her to delete my threads. Lisa
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Post by chicarita on Dec 22, 2011 10:44:16 GMT -5
While I'm not successful with my band, and I'm going to make sure everyone fully understands the data and risks associated, I'm not bashing. I do hope more people seeking the band will come here. Everyone has to chose the surgery that is right for THEM. My only beef with the band is that the slick advertising and Band Mills that have cropped up are clouding that this is real surgery with real risks. Also, you should be fully educated on ALL options before you decide on something this important.
But, if after you have done your homework and then decide the band is for you, then I wish you luck and provide support.
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Post by redbabe08 on Dec 22, 2011 10:57:53 GMT -5
i think if someone comes here and is asking for opinions about banding & is researching.....it's fair to give an honest opinion - and i do that on OH as well.
i've never told someone they are stupid or bashed someones choice - i was successful with the band, but it harmed me. so those researching, should have ALL info before deciding.
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Post by mizdel on Dec 22, 2011 11:09:42 GMT -5
Neil, it has already been suggested that a section on other failed surgeries be included.
I think the word compliant isn't necessary though because all reasons need to be discussed.
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Post by cheynne0 on Dec 22, 2011 11:54:01 GMT -5
Good morning all, and Merry Christmas. I am a (so far) happy bandster and I am happy to be here.
Theresa
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Post by Neal R. on Dec 22, 2011 12:29:38 GMT -5
i think if someone comes here and is asking for opinions about banding & is researching.....it's fair to give an honest opinion - and i do that on OH as well. i've never told someone they are stupid or bashed someones choice - i was successful with the band, but it harmed me. so those researching, should have ALL info before deciding. I couldn't agree more. Everyone needs to make an educated descision. The good and the bad. Unfortunately, the reason I posted is that on OH and here (from my innitial look) seems to not be balanced, only the negative. There are failed surgeries of all types, but yet there is only a failed band section. But I plan to stay around and hope to provide some balance. I won't blow rainbows up people's ass and say the band is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but I want people to know its not all negative. Not everyone has complications and people do succeed and are are to maintain, even it it the the best surgery. It is the best option for some people based on where they are and their circumstances.
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Post by Neal R. on Dec 22, 2011 12:30:39 GMT -5
Neil, it has already been suggested that a section on other failed surgeries be included. I think the word compliant isn't necessary though because all reasons need to be discussed. That is good the hear. That band is the only WLS that has failures. Thank you.
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Post by redbabe08 on Dec 22, 2011 12:35:57 GMT -5
i think if someone comes here and is asking for opinions about banding & is researching.....it's fair to give an honest opinion - and i do that on OH as well. i've never told someone they are stupid or bashed someones choice - i was successful with the band, but it harmed me. so those researching, should have ALL info before deciding. I couldn't agree more. Everyone needs to make an educated descision. The good and the bad. Unfortunately, the reason I posted is that on OH and here (from my innitial look) seems to not be balanced, only the negative. There are failed surgeries of all types, but yet there is only a failed band section. But I plan to stay around and hope to provide some balance. I won't blow rainbows up people's ass and say the band is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but I want people to know its not all negative. Not everyone has complications and people do succeed and are are to maintain, even it it the the best surgery. It is the best option for some people based on where they are and their circumstances. i'm a big proponent for balance. sadly, when i first had my complication...you had the naomi's & nurse sandy's telling others like myself that it was all our fault. now, on OH - it might be slanted to a bit more "bashing" and that is because the old time vets stay on their private board. that to me is where you see the lack of balance - there are only a handful that stick to the main lap band board. my PCP's PA has a band for 10yrs - i snicker at her every time i see her and ask how??? i'm not blind to know it works for some.
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Post by Neal R. on Dec 22, 2011 13:27:21 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more. Everyone needs to make an educated descision. The good and the bad. Unfortunately, the reason I posted is that on OH and here (from my innitial look) seems to not be balanced, only the negative. There are failed surgeries of all types, but yet there is only a failed band section. But I plan to stay around and hope to provide some balance. I won't blow rainbows up people's ass and say the band is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but I want people to know its not all negative. Not everyone has complications and people do succeed and are are to maintain, even it it the the best surgery. It is the best option for some people based on where they are and their circumstances. i'm a big proponent for balance. sadly, when i first had my complication...you had the naomi's & nurse sandy's telling others like myself that it was all our fault. now, on OH - it might be slanted to a bit more "bashing" and that is because the old time vets stay on their private board. that to me is where you see the lack of balance - there are only a handful that stick to the main lap band board. my PCP's PA has a band for 10yrs - i snicker at her every time i see her and ask how??? i'm not blind to know it works for some. I totally understand where you are coming from. There are those to the extreme on both sides. Somewhere between Diana Cox and Naomi lies the truth about the band. lol (btw, I don't discount Diana's knowledge on the DS, she knows much more about that than I do)
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Post by Kim S on Jan 4, 2012 10:09:35 GMT -5
Hey Neal, I'm with you. I was reluctant to join over here as I was pretty sure it would be the "how could you be so dumb to pick the band" group. However, I'm 6 years out, down 95 pounds and still happy with my choice. I'll stick around and be a voice of balance too ...
Kim
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Post by momx4 on Jan 4, 2012 19:22:05 GMT -5
I'll add a different perspective, I don't know if my band failed me or if I failed my band....but long story short I had it removed after it was unfilled for about 6 months. I actually revised to the DS but again my band was "unfilled" and wasn't causing much discomfort at the time I had it removed......it had HOWEVER.....worn an "almost hole" imagine what a screen door looks like.....in my stomach, and had formed scar tissue that had reached over and grabbed part of my liver and wound it up like ivy that winds around a tree. So even though I had had the band 7 years and didn't lose much weight with it, IT MESSED with my guts! I lost part of my liver because of it, and the scar tissue was so bad that had I not wanted any other WLS and just wanted the band removed, I would have ended up with a VSG simply from the scarring!!
So be glad you are successful in your weight loss, but pay close attention to your band because who knows how bad my damage could have been had I left it in there much longer!
I just never thought about a "foreign" object inside my body being bad for me? I mean they replace hips and knees all the time......
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Post by mizdel on Jan 4, 2012 20:48:38 GMT -5
I'll add a different perspective, I don't know if my band failed me or if I failed my band....but long story short I had it removed after it was unfilled for about 6 months. I actually revised to the DS but again my band was "unfilled" and wasn't causing much discomfort at the time I had it removed......it had HOWEVER.....worn an "almost hole" imagine what a screen door looks like.....in my stomach, and had formed scar tissue that had reached over and grabbed part of my liver and wound it up like ivy that winds around a tree. So even though I had had the band 7 years and didn't lose much weight with it, IT MESSED with my guts! I lost part of my liver because of it, and the scar tissue was so bad that had I not wanted any other WLS and just wanted the band removed, I would have ended up with a VSG simply from the scarring!! So be glad you are successful in your weight loss, but pay close attention to your band because who knows how bad my damage could have been had I left it in there much longer! I just never thought about a "foreign" object inside my body being bad for me? I mean they replace hips and knees all the time...... Hips and knees fail too! When people say that the band is just like any other implant, I say no it isn't. Hip and knee implants are designed to act like what they are replacing. A band is placed to change a natural function into a totally unnatural one. I am sorry you had so much damage because of the band. I really consider myself lucky that I got away pretty unscathed, except emotionally!!
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Post by Band to DS on Jan 19, 2012 21:42:15 GMT -5
I think it's wonderful when people are successful with their lap bands. However, the medical literature is clear that there are more complications with adjustable gastric bands than with any other currently-performed WLS. That's not an opinion; it's a statistical fact. I usually limit myself to posting in the "failed bands" section because I want those who've been successful to have a place of their own. I just wanted to (perhaps) explain why you see so many negative posts about bands.
Personally, I think that my body just couldn't tolerate having something wrapped around the top part of my stomach. I quickly developed food intolerances, difficulty swallowing, and esophageal dysmotility. My surgeon also lied to me about how much weight I could reasonably expect to lose and downplayed the long-term risks associated with this surgery. Those of us who were misled want to make sure that pre-ops are informed of the potential risks, not just the potential benefits.
Just my 2 cents, Shelli
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Post by pumpkin on Feb 7, 2012 12:20:53 GMT -5
Neil, I hope you will stick around because I believe you are an asset to the Lap Band community. You're also a dude and we need more stats on males with Lap Bands.
Where are the male Lap Banders hanging out these days Neil ? I think it would be a lovely idea to have a " Man Band Locker Room " here on Proboards. Maybe you could propose this idea to Kelly as another sub board to the Lap Band Boards ?
What say you ?
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Post by reinventingangela on Feb 7, 2012 12:56:27 GMT -5
Theresa and Kim S, WELCOME
Pumpkin - DONT DELETE YOUR POSTS they helped save me from considering the band
Neal - We are totally happy that the band has worked for you and we have other beloved members of this forum that the band has worked for (thankfully) BUT that doesnt change the fact that the number of band failures is on the rise, coupled with the fact that even the manufacturers of the band do not recommend it be left in the body indefinitely...so you will not find the MAJORITY of this board recommending the lap band for NEW patients (which isnt the same as band bashing)
Also, some of those "band bashers" are people whose insides have first been bashed by the lapband...they are allowed to say whatever they want as they paid the price to speak from experience.
If you wish to be a part of our community, we welcome you and your band with open arms....just dont take derrogatory lapband posting personally...it isnt intended that way!
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Post by Kim S on Feb 14, 2012 8:01:53 GMT -5
Neil hasn't weighed back in on the subject but for me the whole tone of this thread kinda says it all.
Like the other posters here, I'm happy to live and let live. I've had a great band experience and I'm thankful for that. Others have had a terrible lap band experience and certainly have the right (and duty) to talk about it and to warn pre-ops, etc. However, it's going to get very tedious if I jump into every failed lap-band post and say "but I had a great experience" and you jump into every successful lap-band post and say "but I had a terrible experience". There has to be a forum for positive lap-band posts and one for negative lap-band posts and a sticky at the top of each directing pre-ops to check out both sides of the story.
Why would I bother to post any positive lap-band stories knowing 10 people are going to jump in and tell me why my experience isn't valid, etc.? It's right up there with telling people who've had lapband problems that it's all their fault (that's enough to make anyone grind their teeth).
Pretty much every post in the "main" lapband section has some form of band bashing in it - doesn't encourage any kind of support community except for those who don't like the band.
Just MHO.
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Post by petham on Feb 15, 2012 11:19:00 GMT -5
Neil hasn't weighed back in on the subject but for me the whole tone of this thread kinda says it all. Like the other posters here, I'm happy to live and let live. I've had a great band experience and I'm thankful for that. Others have had a terrible lap band experience and certainly have the right (and duty) to talk about it and to warn pre-ops, etc. However, it's going to get very tedious if I jump into every failed lap-band post and say "but I had a great experience" and you jump into every successful lap-band post and say "but I had a terrible experience". There has to be a forum for positive lap-band posts and one for negative lap-band posts and a sticky at the top of each directing pre-ops to check out both sides of the story. Why would I bother to post any positive lap-band stories knowing 10 people are going to jump in and tell me why my experience isn't valid, etc.? It's right up there with telling people who've had lapband problems that it's all their fault (that's enough to make anyone grind their teeth). Pretty much every post in the "main" lapband section has some form of band bashing in it - doesn't encourage any kind of support community except for those who don't like the band. Just MHO. You said that very well, I don't know what to contribute. I'm fine and I don't have any issues..makes for a very boring and short post. I'm happy to answer questions, but so far no one asked any that I can give a meaningful answer to..
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Post by Kim S on Feb 15, 2012 13:49:41 GMT -5
Thanks Petham - I appreciate the support
*Exalt*!
We'll stick around and chat with each other ;-)
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Post by petham on Feb 15, 2012 17:39:28 GMT -5
Thanks Petham - I appreciate the support *Exalt*! We'll stick around and chat with each other ;-) Maybe we'll start a Rah, rah club
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Post by lyndee on Feb 15, 2012 20:14:24 GMT -5
Hi Neal, long time no see. Hope all is well.
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Post by Neal R. on Mar 7, 2012 13:12:59 GMT -5
Neil, I hope you will stick around because I believe you are an asset to the Lap Band community. You're also a dude and we need more stats on males with Lap Bands. Where are the male Lap Banders hanging out these days Neil ? I think it would be a lovely idea to have a " Man Band Locker Room " here on Proboards. Maybe you could propose this idea to Kelly as another sub board to the Lap Band Boards ? What say you ? Hey Pumpkin - sorry I hadn't responded. Thanks for the kind words. I think that would be a great idea.
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Post by MontanaGirl on Mar 7, 2012 14:14:58 GMT -5
i won't bash the band i would never reccomend it but what i really wanted to post is a quote from my surgeon 'the band is soon to be obsolete, it is the least effective wls, and i do not recommend it' so based on that... a surgeon who performs DS RNY Sleeve and Band and has been a bariatric surgeon for over 20 years, that speaks volumes to me:) so i was trying to be constructive with my critisism:)
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Post by starfighter on May 5, 2012 19:41:54 GMT -5
I am not bashing the band either it may work for some people, and not for others. But I would say before you make decsion on get a band check your other options that are available to you. You maybe happy that you did.
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Post by chicarita on May 6, 2012 8:08:27 GMT -5
I think it's great that you have done so well. I truly hope you continue to do so.
I didn't, but that doesn't mean that the band is wrong for everyone.
I think it's tough because a lot of us had damage found only upon revision so I think everyone is in the "i want to save you from what I experienced mode".
But I support you and your success and please do stick around. We need both sides.
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Post by starfighter on May 6, 2012 8:17:39 GMT -5
I agree with Rita above.
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