Let’s get back on track together!!!!

[~Dani~]

Awesome a board for those who have experienced some regain!

I am 3.5 years post RNY and have regained 20 pounds due to stress in my life from a divorce and allowing carbs back into my diet. I am now restricting and recording everything I eat and working out as much as my schedule allows (usually 5x/week)

I will post an accountability thread of the food I ate the day previous and what exercise I did.

I hope some of you will be willing to join me in this new sub-board!!!!

We Can Do It!!!!!!

[Kim S]

Just wanted to pop in and say hi. I regained about 15 pounds in 2010, finally got serious about
- no more snacking (especially late at night)
- logging my food
- wearing a BodyMedia Fit armband to keep track of my calories burned, steps, etc.

I've lost the 15 plus a little more but I want to keep going in the right direction and regain is always something to keep an eye out for. I probably won't post daily but I'd love to pop in and get tips from this sub-forum.

[~Dani~]

Kim,

Awesome job and congrats on your loss! I have heard great things about the armbands.

Take Care!
~Dani

[mooney]

I am not familiar with arm bands. Does it track your steps or heartrate?

[kirmy]

I've had a crappy re-gain of around 3kg over the festive period. I'm working out hard doing T25 6 days a week but still struggle keeping late night snacking under some sembalance of control. I'm starting tracking again tomorrow. I plan on dropping this excess weight as soon as possible as it is messing with my head.

[Leonie]

Jan 19, 2014 13:52:37 GMT -5 kirmy said:

I've had a crappy re-gain of around 3kg over the festive period. I'm working out hard doing T25 6 days a week but still struggle keeping late night snacking under some sembalance of control. I'm starting tracking again tomorrow. I plan on dropping this excess weight as soon as possible as it is messing with my head.

Oh, hello! Its good to hear from you. Sorry about the re-gain.
You say it is messing with your head, is it also messing with your waistline?
I am asking because it seems I have been fluctuating within the same 3kg for the last six months. It seems unrelated to my waistband tightness. I guess it makes a major difference on your tiny frame.?

What is T25?

[kirmy]

T25 is a high impact work out like Insanity (same guy). It lasts for 25mins and makes you go "nnnnggghhh and huuffffmmpp". It works well.

My waiste band is getting tight and my jeans a little snug. It is pissing my off but the sense of failure is the worst part. I'm really being a drama queen but i'd be lying if i said it was ok. I don't feel ok...I feel annoyed and disappointed at myself.

Rant over.

[aflame]

Jan 20, 2014 13:36:14 GMT -5 kirmy said:

T25 is a high impact work out like Insanity (same guy). It lasts for 25mins and makes you go "nnnnggghhh and huuffffmmpp". It works well.

My waiste band is getting tight and my jeans a little snug. It is pissing my off but the sense of failure is the worst part. I'm really being a drama queen but i'd be lying if i said it was ok. I don't feel ok...I feel annoyed and disappointed at myself.

Rant over.

Kirmy, I tried Insanity in my slim days. Damn, that's some crazy ass workout. It wasn't easy. IMO, it's harder than P90X lol. I am also a big weenie about high impact cardio. I much prefer workouts with a heavy lifting component.

Do you have any other workouts you enjoy?

And, this isn't to invalidate how you feel. I know I would've felt the same way post my DS. But, it's amazing that the DS gives us the tools to be on the same level as non-DS'ers. So, the hardwork, as you know, that yielded little to no results or results that barely lasted, will now cause more consistent and sustainable changes in our bodies.

The psychological aspect is probably the hardest to deal with as far as post WLS weight gain is concerned. It must be a scary feeling like we're slipping back into the shadows we toiled hard to overcome. I used to feel that way when I'd start regaining weight after losing a ton, over and over, even through exercise and diet etc. It was always unsettling. With a big decision like the DS, I can glean that those feelings of discontentment would be more intense. It's perfectly fine to feel what you're feeling. I won't ask you to get over it or anything juvenile like that. I already know you're working to make the right changes. The feelings will resolve over time. And, I do hope that these things coming from a pre-Op don't sound pretentious or presumptuous. Outside of the post WLS context, I am familiar with what you're going through. I hope I was able to offer a modicum of solidarity.

I wish you success with your fitness goals, always:).

[Girlrocker]

A little creep is not abnormal, but also can be rectified with some good tweaks. There's a 'free for all' time post-op, how long it lasts for everyone is a little different -you know, where we really can eat anything and the weight comes off. I rememver you went through a time where you just kept losing and were like YIKES. My former regains were excruciatingly painful - to me it was the feeling equivalent of an alcoholic or drug addict fallling off the wagon. Likely your body is now finding its happy place, and that kick-ass exercise is great. I did bootcamp for a year and loved it (my arthritic body, joints do not) I've done TRX and Crossfit too. Now I do regular cardio and strength training, with some spin class thrown in and hike here regularly. But I find what works best for me is to do the basics - I up my protein and fats, cut back on the carby goodies, and my weight stays in check. I allow myself to go up 5 lbs for holiday time, vacation weekends - the rule is that's the limit, and, I must strip it off immediately. Otherwise I know all too well how fast that 5 becomes 10, than 20. It took me a long time to be on top of this like I am now, you CAN do it.

[kirmy]

I'm so into you. X

I have lost about 2lb but have muscles on my muscles and a core of diamond. I am also journaling again which is helping me feel in control slightly. It is the fear of failure that paralyses me. I need to get over myself.

[kirmy]

I'm at the "bitch deal with it" phase. I know I need to be mindful about eating...it is retraining. The free pass is gone but thank god I'm not all hip bones and turkey neck now. It may have felt good intellectually to put on a size 4 dress ( on the one day that I could fit that) but the reality was ugly on me. So I'm working on me. It's long over due.

Lovvies beauties. X

[Girlrocker]

Jan 21, 2014 11:42:19 GMT -5 kirmy said:

I'm at the "bitch deal with it" phase. I know I need to be mindful about eating...it is retraining. The free pass is gone but thank god I'm not all hip bones and turkey neck now. It may have felt good intellectually to put on a size 4 dress ( on the one day that I could fit that) but the reality was ugly on me. So I'm working on me. It's long over due.

Lovvies beauties. X

I think what I just posted to someone else applies here - I really hope you can re-read this and pat yourself on the back. You've come a LONG way baby. It's such a different world to live at a reasonable weight after years of struggling/failing to lose it and knowing that it's not magic when we do lose it. If it were, we probably wouldn't have needed surgical intervention. And that's what it is - intervention - that's how big and deep our issues are. I feel on top of things in a way I didn't think I could be - but mindful is a great word, because I am, I know I don't have the luxury of being any other way. It just doesn't consume the time/energy it used to, I trust the things I've learned - I mean really, we work our asses off right? So it's never mindless, but it gets better over time. You are on your A-game sister.

[So Blessed]

Hanging head in shame...

I'll be 10 years post op in November. I knew better. I just became complacent.

Over time I started eating everything my naturally thin family ate. Two years later I've had to buy bigger clothes PLUS my blood pressure and cholesterol are high.

I'm getting back on track today with my goal to lose 18 pounds.


Coffee with 2% milk to start the day and lots of green tea between meals.

Breakfast - 1/2 cup of oatmeal with a spoonful unsweetened applesauce
1 slice turkey bacon
1 egg white

Lunch - Turkey sandwich (lowfat turkey, american cheese, lettuce, tomato on homemade 100% whole wheat bread)
1/4 cup blackberries

Snack - Low cal Jello pudding dessert

Dinner - Rotisserie chicken and collard green

[bboop]

I'm sitting here trying to decide if I can do it - AGAIN. I was down to 170 before the steroids and now I'm up 20 lbs...I'm just tired of dieting. Isn't that awful? I tell myself "You can do this." But I don't do anything - I just continue to eat...not always healthy for a DSer. Damn I hate this.

[tina9999]

Ahhh ladies. I know exactly where you are.

We're here for you.

[So Blessed]

Feb 10, 2014 12:15:58 GMT -5 bboop said:

I'm sitting here trying to decide if I can do it - AGAIN. I was down to 170 before the steroids and now I'm up 20 lbs...I'm just tired of dieting. Isn't that awful? I tell myself "You can do this." But I don't do anything - I just continue to eat...not always healthy for a DSer. Damn I hate this.

I know. It stinks. Steroids made me regain once too, but I can't blame mine on meds this time.

Why can't I eat whatever I want, however much of it I want and whenever I want it without blowing up? WHYYYYYYYY?!!!!!

I'm on a mission though. I'm getting back into my pretty clothes and I'm going to feel good again. My joints and my energy level are suffering from carrying this extra weight. Posting on this board after being away for so long is a first step in holding myself accountable for what I put in my mouth.

I'm going to do this.

[Girlrocker]

So Blessed, bboop - no shame allowed! Our surgeries are a tool, and we are lifelong works in progress. It's exactly why I stay here every day, because I know I need to be in touch with regular support to keep myself accountable. I'm nearly a year in maintenance now (just over 2 years revision post-op) and I can already see that there is a slow down, not the amount of 'foregiveness' with the surgery we get early on. And you all are helping me every day, remembering that no matter how much I know now, how much I've learned, I never stop learning. I also know how quickly a few 'creep' pounds can turn into 10 or more.

So bravo for coming forward, reaching out. Having to be on steriods would be awful, I have watched what happened to a family friend and steroid therapy for her Crohn's disease.

I am a life-long emotional, compulsive eater and have been through a giant round of stress last quarter of 2013 and top of 2014. It's exactly when I want bread, pizza, donuts and cookies. I have to sit on my hands sometimes.

You still have the DS and that means, you don't have to diet. You just have to FEED it right. I suggest eliminating the word diet out of your vocabulary and think, DS Bootcamp Back to Basics.

So good, post what you're eating, vent when you are feeling emotionally vulnerable to your trigger foods, whatever it takes. One day at a time and do not beat yourselves up because our surgeries can't fix our heads, wouldn't that be a neat trick? You can do this and, you'll never know how many people you probably help just by sharing who are too shy to do so.

I made myself homemade meatloafs, chicken/eggdrop/lemon soup with shiratke noodles a batch of honey-walnut flavored cream cheese pancakes for my peri menopausal sweet cravings, and some Pure Protein bars in chocolate peanutbutter and blueberry.

[bboop]

Thanks Girlrocker...I have to make myself do this and so far I'm not at the point where I want to. Now that's really BAD. I have a few tops in the closet that were meant for me pre-steroids. Now they are a little too snug. I must do this and make myself accountable. Just give me some more time.

I hate being chubby...I absolutely hate it.

[Girlrocker]

Feb 10, 2014 19:53:18 GMT -5 bboop said:

Thanks Girlrocker...I have to make myself do this and so far I'm not at the point where I want to. Now that's really BAD. I have a few tops in the closet that were meant for me pre-steroids. Now they are a little too snug. I must do this and make myself accountable. Just give me some more time.

I hate being chubby...I absolutely hate it.

I know, that feeling of clothes being snug is awful. We're not going anywhere, and I think you should give yourself some credit for saying it 'outloud'. Not just blowin' smoke at you. That's the first step, to stop living in silent shame. It's not a testatment to all your accomplishments or a comment of them lacking. This is always work and sometimes its easier/harder than others. Try to take yourself off the hook.

[bboop]

Thanks Girlrocker.

[So Blessed]

I worked out today. First time in like forever. It was not fun, but it wasn't painful either.

[Girlrocker]

Feb 24, 2014 13:08:32 GMT -5 So Blessed said:

I worked out today. First time in like forever. It was not fun, but it wasn't painful either.

Excellent! Want to compare notes? Where do you work out, what did you do? I just switched health clubs, have had to figure out what's going to work for me now physically and logistically. I had belonged to a gym for a long time, but needed to change because my arthritic body can't handle bootcamp and all that anymore. So I moved over to LA Fitness (which just also bought out Ballys), which has a pool and more classes. I use the eliptical trainer, and I want to try doing spin class twice a week. I also have to watch the weight training again since I have hernia #3 *sighs*

[tina9999]

I'm not in maintenance yet, but I just started working out again myself - can I join in on this conversation? I've been a member of Planet Fitness for about 5 years - I joined when I worked on the other side of town - went 4 or 5 times & that was enough of that. They opened one on my side of town last year (in Smyrna, GA). I actually hired one of the employees there to train with me on Monday's & Friday's to help me get over the "I despise coming here & I despise wokring out" feelings. But honestly, the 1st 2 sessions which were just "assessments" according to him left me so sore I could hardly move for about 4-5 days after each one. So I fired him.

I worked out with a trainer many years ago, so I know the basics. I'm going to do Chest & Arms on Monday, Legs on Wednesdays & Back & Shoulder's on Saturdays. With 2 additional 30 minutes of 75% max heart rate thrown in per week. It's interesting that both that stupid guy at the gym & also one of the surgeons recommend weight training over cardio, so that's what I'm going to do. I can tell I did a bit on Saturday for the back & shoulders, but really compared to the trainer, the soreness is zilch.

Who wants to feel like they're going to die when they're just trying to get started? And they wonder why we quit!

I want to buy a kayak this summer for the lake & if I don't build up my strength and endurance, I won't be able to use it or load it on my SUV. It would suck to finally be able to fit into one, be able to buy one but not be strong enough to enjoy it.

[So Blessed]

I have so many orthopedic issues it's not funny, so I have to be very conservative with what I do. I went to YouTube and found Leslie Sansone's one-mile walk at home video.  I closed my office door, put on sneakers and walked.

[tina9999]

Interestingly, after I posted that about the trainer, he called me. He doesn't want me to quit. I told him I wasn't planning on quitting, just not planning to continue with him. He wants me to reassess after this week.

I told him that if his idea of an assessment was what I went through the prior week, then his workout was going to kill me. I told him being that sore was unacceptable to me. He keeps saying it's just because it was my 1st workout - which I know to be a load of hogwash because I've had 1st workouts before & I wasn't hurting that bad. And forget doing legs with him. As many times as I am in the bathroom every day, I would need someone to help get me up, so thanks but no thanks.

He says he understands what I'm saying & that he understands he needs to turn down the intensity. Why can't people just accept what you tell them and move on. It's not like I asked for my money back on my untaken sessions. Good grief.

[Girlrocker]

So Blessed - GOOD for you, that's very proactive. Nothing funny about orthopedic issues, yuck Are you a swimmer at all?

Tina - of course you can join in! Back on track, staying on track, I think all relevant, right?! Strength training is really good for faciliating metabolism, which is why they suggest it. However, I find it a little odd that both would discourage you from cardio? 20-30 minutes a few times a week is a good thing, good for the heart besides what it does to facilliate weight loss. Odd, would love to know their reasoning. Your workout plan sounds good! A little soreness is not such a bad thing, and to be expected when we're working things we haven't, but I remember the incredible physical pain when I took bootcamp, oy. That kind of pain for essential getting into shape is not required. Just good form and increasing the resistance. What do you like best about working out, what do you like least?

This is good discussion for me, because I don't like sitting at the top of my range and going over it; I really don' t know how much of it is caused by being on the road to menopause, but I also do a some stress carb eating on occasion and that is the first getting kicked to the curb.

So today so far:
60g whey protein shake
1/2 cup oatmeal with butter, 4 slices bacon
1 Pure Protein blueberry bar
2 chicken tenders
salami/havarti cheese roll-ups

In the fridge here at work I have pulled pork, meatballs, hot dogs to have this afternoon and homemade meatloaf at home for dinner. My goal is to have my good carbs earlier in the day, and taper them off by this time. If I need a sweet treat or snack, cream cheese pancakes to the rescue, or cottage cheese 'fluff'.

I try to do 4-5 workouts a week, will be there tomorrow for eliptical and giving some thought to trying running laps on the track.

[tina9999]

Feb 24, 2014 17:32:42 GMT -5 Girlrocker said:

So Blessed - GOOD for you, that's very proactive. Nothing funny about orthopedic issues, yuck Are you a swimmer at all?

Tina - of course you can join in! Back on track, staying on track, I think all relevant, right?! Strength training is really good for faciliating metabolism, which is why they suggest it. However, I find it a little odd that both would discourage you from cardio? 20-30 minutes a few times a week is a good thing, good for the heart besides what it does to facilliate weight loss. Odd, would love to know their reasoning. Your workout plan sounds good! A little soreness is not such a bad thing, and to be expected when we're working things we haven't, but I remember the incredible physical pain when I took bootcamp, oy. That kind of pain for essential getting into shape is not required. Just good form and increasing the resistance. What do you like best about working out, what do you like least?

This is good discussion for me, because I don't like sitting at the top of my range and going over it; I really don' t know how much of it is caused by being on the road to menopause, but I also do a some stress carb eating on occasion and that is the first getting kicked to the curb.

So today so far:
60g whey protein shake
1/2 cup oatmeal with butter, 4 slices bacon
1 Pure Protein blueberry bar
2 chicken tenders
salami/havarti cheese roll-ups

In the fridge here at work I have pulled pork, meatballs, hot dogs to have this afternoon and homemade meatloaf at home for dinner. My goal is to have my good carbs earlier in the day, and taper them off by this time. If I need a sweet treat or snack, cream cheese pancakes to the rescue, or cottage cheese 'fluff'.

I try to do 4-5 workouts a week, will be there tomorrow for eliptical and giving some thought to trying running laps on the track.



Hi Sharyl,
They don't discourage cardio necessarily, but both think if you keep your heart rate up after you've warmed up on your cardio, you'll get the same heart benefits through the weight training. I'm doing a 15 minute warm up on the treadmill on weight training days & 30 minutes on the treadmill on non-weight training days.

I really love tennis but I don't have anyone to play with right now & between being out of shape & some issues with my knees, it isn't really a viable option for me. I used to hike & bike quite a bit & enjoy that after the 1st 5 or 10 minutes. One of my homework assignments from my counselor over the next 2 weeks is to get my bike tuned up. I think it's going to start warming up here soon so it'll be a nice something to do on weekend mornings or early afternoons.

[So Blessed]

Sharyl ,I took swimming lessons a long time ago, but I'm not a "water person". I can't stand for it to get in my eyes or go up my nose. Learned just enough not to drown in an amergency.

[Girlrocker]

Tina - eep! Somehow I missed your other response, about the trainer trying to rope you back to him. There are so many out there, that's the whole point, to find one that's a good fit, and he clearly wasn't. Hopefully he backs off now, he made his 'pitch' to try to get you back as a client, you're not interested, he needs to move on.

Ahhh, I see now about the cardio too, technically you are doing some cardio,it's being tailored specifically with the weight training, and yes, keeping the heart rate up is what it's all about for metabolic effect, weight loss/management. Your plan sounds good. I love that you have a goal of working to get a kayak! I just acquired a bicycle again, it had been awhile. When I lived in Chicago I biked everywhere, weather permitting, but living in LA is different, and the area I used to live in was too steep hill wise. So I only took it to the beach sometimes. I moved so now an at last do errands again on my bike, I have a basket and everything for small grocery runs. I completely suck at tennis I tried so many times to learn and finally gave up. I do like hiking though and there are a gazillion options here, to work with my ailing knees.

Soblessed - I hear you on swimming. I never warmed up to it for exercise, even though easy on the back, knees. Well at least you won't drown! How are you doing with your meal/eating plan? I know you were looking for RNY peeps, but I was one until 2 years ago, so I feel half and half, yanno?

I've been doing well, except this morning having donuts I caved. But I followed it up with 2 poached eggs, mini meatballs, monterey jack and salami; and just had a burger with cheddar and onions no bun. My hernia has grown from the small 'pop' to the nearing-5 mos preggers look. *sighs* I haven't lost any weight yet, but at least have reined in the extra carbs - except for today - that I was having.