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Post by newyorkbitch on Jan 27, 2015 9:44:33 GMT -5
We recommend the starter pack (and it is pricey) because it is a no-brainer. It has everything that you need to take in the correct dosages and formulations. Once you have finished it and have had your 3 month labs, you'll make adjustments. You can buy most of your vitamins from Costco or Walmart. The store brand generics at both places are excellent. Everything except your Dry vitamins (A, D3, E, and K2) and some types of iron, you should be able to find easily locally and be able to shop for sales. I get D3 from Amazon (it's biotech brand, same as what vitalady sells) I get generic calcium citrate from wherever - usually CVS I get Kirkland multivitamins I get everything else from Vitalady...it's easy, it's one stop shopping, and I trust the formulations. And it ships right to my door. I don't get the packs - I get bottles (cheaper) and put everything in a large pill organizer once a month. I take vitamins 4x a day - that's the vitalady regimen. I don't take oral iron - it does nothing for me, no matter what I take. I get an iron infusion (Feraheme - takes 5 minutes) about 3 times a year in my hematologist's office.
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Post by bswitched on Jan 27, 2015 10:07:04 GMT -5
Thank you very much. This clears things up a great deal. I found a link to the schedule and amounts so I have been basing my buying on that. I think I'll need to try her tender iron. I bought the ferosol and I'm taking it now but it felt off in my tummy yesterday. I'm working through things now so that it'll all be set up for post op ! Now to find a pill organization station ?
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Post by bswitched on Jan 28, 2015 12:07:52 GMT -5
Okay! I have most of my vitamins ordered, I need to order the tender iron from vita lady. Normal multi-vitamins bother my stomach (like centrum and such) so I've been taking a food based vitamin for quite a while. Looking at the label I think it's lacking some items. I spoke with my friend who works at a health store and he suggested rainbow light brand instead of the megafood im using currently preop. Here's the label, how does this look for my multi to take post DS ? I also have dry forms of A D E K coming, sublingual b-12 and calcium citrate.
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Post by bswitched on Jan 28, 2015 12:08:51 GMT -5
He also mentioned alive brand too. Thank you in advance for any help. I will be buying something to try presurgery to make sure it doesn't bother me. I know my stomach will change of course but I'd like to know its at least good to go pre and hope it's still good post with the new plumbing.
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PeteA
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Surgery Date: 4/15/13
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Post by PeteA on Jan 28, 2015 14:04:28 GMT -5
The pre-packed vitamins from Vitalady are more expensive. It just depends on how organized you think you will be in the beginning. You can still buy individually from vitalady I buy some things from her and some I look on Amazon or one of the vitamin stores for a good price. I usually get her tender iron, and vitamin K. Sometimes I get protein powder or samples of protein powder. The samples are a great way to try differenet types of protein powder.
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Post by goodkel on Jan 28, 2015 20:36:39 GMT -5
Okay! I have most of my vitamins ordered, I need to order the tender iron from vita lady. Normal multi-vitamins bother my stomach (like centrum and such) so I've been taking a food based vitamin for quite a while. Looking at the label I think it's lacking some items. I spoke with my friend who works at a health store and he suggested rainbow light brand instead of the megafood im using currently preop. Here's the label, how does this look for my multi to take post DS ? I also have dry forms of A D E K coming, sublingual b-12 and calcium citrate. Looks fine to me. The multi is just to fill in the cracks. Nothing in them counts towards your vitamin requirements. I take a separate B complex vitamin rather than rely on my multi for them.
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Post by bswitched on Jan 29, 2015 12:53:50 GMT -5
We recommend the starter pack (and it is pricey) because it is a no-brainer. It has everything that you need to take in the correct dosages and formulations. Once you have finished it and have had your 3 month labs, you'll make adjustments. You can buy most of your vitamins from Costco or Walmart. The store brand generics at both places are excellent. Everything except your Dry vitamins (A, D3, E, and K2) and some types of iron, you should be able to find easily locally and be able to shop for sales. I'm looking at her website and I'm curious which iron to choose, tender iron 25mg or tender iron 60mg with vitamin C ? The vitamin schedule I located says 5 tender iron to equal 300mg plus an additional vitamin C 1000 mg.
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PeteA
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Surgery Date: 4/15/13
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Post by PeteA on Jan 29, 2015 15:23:21 GMT -5
Per the schedule you want the 60mg with vitamin C. Truthfully, most of us would have to take too many of the 25mg to be comfortable with. I take the 1000mg vitamin C in addition to what is in the vitalady iron, especially since I also take some different types of iron that don't have Vit C.
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Post by bswitched on Jan 29, 2015 15:26:28 GMT -5
Per the schedule you want the 60mg with vitamin C. Truthfully, most of us would have to take too many of the 25mg to be comfortable with. I take the 1000mg vitamin C in addition to what is in the vitalady iron, especially since I also take some different types of iron that don't have Vit C. Thanks Pete! I thought that was the case but I figure ask ask ask so I only order once!
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Post by goodkel on Jan 29, 2015 15:50:53 GMT -5
I never count the "with added ___" usually it is D with calcium, but I guess they are doing C with iron now, too.
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derinoe
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Surgery Type: DS
Surgery Date: 06/04/2014
Surgeon: Dr. Marek L.
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Post by derinoe on Feb 4, 2015 1:02:56 GMT -5
Hi there, congrats on taking this step and getting all the info before the surgery. People on this forum is amazing! There support and knowledge is priceless. I am still new to D's life myself but I can't emagine doing it without vets help. I have learned a lot from them that helped me in my journey. One thing I have noticed, that if I don't get enough fat or protein my weight loss slowed to a stop pretty much. Its hard to eat meat or fish if it does not have much olive oil or butter on it. So as you heal listen to your body, it will tell you the right proportion for you. Defiantly read all the labels before you buy anything. You can't even emagine how many carbs can hide in a product. Sip, Sip,Sip and Sip water, tea all day long. Always have a bottle with you. It is hard at first to get all the liquid you need, but keep going at it. Broth works too! Taste changes so much after surgery it is exiting to discover new favorite food. Vitamins vise at first after surgery I started with liquid vitamins. I did not wanted to miss out on them as I heal and switched to pills as soon as I could swallow them. Most my vits I get from Costco, CVS and Amazon. I have blood work done each 3 month and adjust accordingly. You will get a hang of it, you can do this! Never have to count calories again is such a freedom. I do count carbs, I get most complex carbs from veggies or berries. Some times a square of 90% dark chocolate will do a trick. I wish you all the luck in the world. Sip, Sip, Sip and listen to the vets.
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Post by newyorkbitch on Feb 4, 2015 2:54:33 GMT -5
Hi there, congrats on taking this step and getting all the info before the surgery. People on this forum is amazing! There support and knowledge is priceless. I am still new to D's life myself but I can't emagine doing it without vets help. I have learned a lot from them that helped me in my journey. One thing I have noticed, that if I don't get enough fat or protein my weight loss slowed to a stop pretty much. Its hard to eat meat or fish if it does not have much olive oil or butter on it. So as you heal listen to your body, it will tell you the right proportion for you. Defiantly read all the labels before you buy anything. You can't even emagine how many carbs can hide in a product. Sip, Sip,Sip and Sip water, tea all day long. Always have a bottle with you. It is hard at first to get all the liquid you need, but keep going at it. Broth works too! Taste changes so much after surgery it is exiting to discover new favorite food. Vitamins vise at first after surgery I started with liquid vitamins. I did not wanted to miss out on them as I heal and switched to pills as soon as I could swallow them. Most my vits I get from Costco, CVS and Amazon. I have blood work done each 3 month and adjust accordingly. You will get a hang of it, you can do this! Never have to count calories again is such a freedom. I do count carbs, I get most complex carbs from veggies or berries. Some times a square of 90% dark chocolate will do a trick. I wish you all the luck in the world. Sip, Sip, Sip and listen to the vets. Where do you get your A, E and K ?
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derinoe
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Posts: 75
Surgery Type: DS
Surgery Date: 06/04/2014
Surgeon: Dr. Marek L.
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Post by derinoe on Feb 4, 2015 11:06:48 GMT -5
Bio-Ae-Mulsion Forte Biotics, is liquid drops on amazon as well. K and E so far I got through the surgeons office.
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derinoe
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Posts: 75
Surgery Type: DS
Surgery Date: 06/04/2014
Surgeon: Dr. Marek L.
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Post by derinoe on Feb 4, 2015 11:17:15 GMT -5
I also found best tasting protein drink for me so far. It is made by Shamrock Farms. Rocking Refuel. It has 30g of protein and only 12g of carbs. I have been struggling with other powder and liquid ones, but this taste just like milk shake or chocolate milk. Some times I would add some instant coffee in it as well. If you looking for a desent tasting one, try this one.
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Post by newyorkbitch on Feb 4, 2015 11:22:00 GMT -5
Bio-Ae-Mulsion Forte Biotics, is liquid drops on amazon as well. K and E so far I got through the surgeons office. Order your A, D, E, and K from vitalady.com. You are taking the wrong forms. Read the vitamin board here.
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PeteA
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Post by PeteA on Feb 4, 2015 14:12:54 GMT -5
How are your labs? I took a look on Amazon, the doses seem kind of on the low end, especially for the D but if your labs are fine then that's obviously OK for you. I take 100k vitamin D a day to keep around 50 so this wouldn't be for me..
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Post by Simba on Feb 6, 2015 1:07:20 GMT -5
there are many aspects of the DS PO diet and vit/min intake. First like anything else, we are all individuals, we metablolize differently, our health status, age, gender etc also influence this. The question of taking the correct water soluble Vit ADEKs are not such a stumbling block especially among most DSers. The question of fat, continues to be misunderstood. I do not restrict my fat intake, I am not low fat, but I do not intentionally add fat, it is a balancing act.
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Post by mark540 on Feb 8, 2015 22:41:19 GMT -5
5 years out this month and I still get a RNY package when I stop in for yearly blood work.
I don't eat low fat, I don't eat high fat. I don't go out of my way to avoid fat nor do I seek out high fat options.
I just eat what I want when I want to. Minimize the carbs, accommodate the needs of others in my household that do follow low fat diets.
I do eat more eggs than the average person, perhaps 4 a day.
No problems with constipation.
Everybody needs to find their own balance that works for them.
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michaelp
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Surgeon: Dr Greenbaum
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Post by michaelp on Feb 24, 2015 8:48:40 GMT -5
I have to tell you I went to a great Doctor (Surgeon) but as someone told me they're great at the surgery NOT the nutrition or vitamin part. I was floored by the mis-information I got from the nutritionists through the doctors office. Even when they said their plan was for the DS - they were giving such BAD information. I swear this sight is truly amazing if you spend some time separating the wheat from the chaff. I hate to say this but look through this site and use this to have conversations with your doctor and nutritionists but I'd go with the site over them. Good luck - I'm 8 months out and I'm thrilled with the decision!
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Post by goodkel on Feb 25, 2015 15:32:38 GMT -5
I have to tell you I went to a great Doctor (Surgeon) but as someone told me they're great at the surgery NOT the nutrition or vitamin part. I was floored by the mis-information I got from the nutritionists through the doctors office. Even when they said their plan was for the DS - they were giving such BAD information. I swear this sight is truly amazing if you spend some time separating the wheat from the chaff. I hate to say this but look through this site and use this to have conversations with your doctor and nutritionists but I'd go with the site over them. Good luck - I'm 8 months out and I'm thrilled with the decision! Absolutely. When you have a bad break in a bone, the surgeon follows you until his work has healed. He does not provide you with ongoing support about how to strengthen your bones or the nutrition and vitamins you need to keep that bone healthy. This is how surgeons are trained. They cut, they make sure that their cutting heals. The end. There are a couple of surgeons who have proactively gone farther, but they are few and far between. Most just hand you RnY advice or over to a nutritionist who only understands the RnY, which will not work for us. Some have gone so far as to create experimental surgeries (the SADI and SIPS) to avoid the consequences of the deficiencies created in their patients by the lack of proper information. The DS provides, of ALL bariatric procedures, the highest percentage of excess weight lost and the highest percentage of excess weight loss maintained long term. But, it requires that YOU become responsible for your ongoing care, that YOU insist on the labs that you need, that YOU learn how to fill your nutritional requirements. It is a small price to pay, but it can not be avoided without potentially life threatening danger to your health.
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Post by bswitched on Feb 25, 2015 15:46:14 GMT -5
Thank you, all the advice is appreciated. My surgery is in 2 weeks. Getting very excited
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kmarlee76
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On my way to DS day! (RNY to DS July 6)
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Surgery Type: Revision
Surgery Date: July 6, 2015
Surgeon: Dr. Boyce
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Post by kmarlee76 on Apr 17, 2015 22:31:35 GMT -5
Almost every DSer I know doesn't eat low fat. First, it can help plug you up. You want to keep the wheels greased, so to speak. Second, in many instances higher fat foods taste good. I know that's what I like to eat. Unfortunately, many bariatric teams have a kind of one-size-fits-all diet. Low fat is much more for other WLS. Not for DSers. I really appreciate your wording about low fat being for "other WLS". I had a RNY and will revise to a DS in July, and I have a hard time wrapping my head around eating higher fat after DS. I've lived with the RNY diet mentality for 14 years. Carbs are killers no matter what your anatomy is. Thank you all for your great advice!
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