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Post by amydroe on Aug 15, 2014 14:41:12 GMT -5
I've been fighting the sugar demons  They have been winning For the past two weeks I was logging my food and meeting all my nutritional goals yet not losing weight. I got below 200 then within a day I was back up to 203. After two weeks it was laughable. Not really. I thought maybe I broke my DS  I talked with Marc and Scott. They both gave me tips and encouragement. Finally Tuesday I decided to put every last bite I ate into MFP. I have always put my food in. This time though, I put my SF mints and gum and SF Russell Stover caramels and turtles in. HOLLY HELL!!!! I was eating one caramel in the late morn. One in the early afternoon. And mints ALL day! That's where I found my issue. 21 carbs in each caramel and 2 each mint and gum. I was getting 116g carbs a day!!!! So I ditched all the candy and since Tuesday I have went from 203 to 195!!! So happy!! I know! I know! It's not a sprint it's a marathon. Got it, but it's a marathon I want to be in control of. Also, as you all know, I don't listen well. I did do the Extreme Bodyshaping class. It was fun and felt good. I took care not to do any lifting as it was bands and kickboxing anyway. BUT I gained 9 pounds immediately and was told I would not lose the entire time. Inches yes, weight no. Since I did not have WLS to get strong, rather to lose weight, I stopped going. In about a week the weight started coming off again. I will get strong later! I'm walking and doing yoga right now with great results. Yep lessons learned! |
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Post by west4thavenue on Aug 15, 2014 14:53:49 GMT -5
Before I say anything else, Amy, let me say I AM GLAD YOU ARE BACK!! I missed you!
It is a marathon. It's also a little like a maze, at least in the early stages like you and I are. We find the dead ends, back up, and keep going. And you have done just that! Welcome to Onederland.
I am glad you're walking and doing yoga instead of the more strenuous class. Sounded too risky too soon. Glad you are losing again and back on the boards.
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Post by amydroe on Aug 15, 2014 15:07:07 GMT -5
Before I say anything else, Amy, let me say I AM GLAD YOU ARE BACK!! I missed you!
It is a marathon. It's also a little like a maze, at least in the early stages like you and I are. We find the dead ends, back up, and keep going. And you have done just that! Welcome to Onederland.
I am glad you're walking and doing yoga instead of the more strenuous class. Sounded too risky too soon. Glad you are losing again and back on the boards.
I so need to make more time to post. I miss you too! How are you? Everyone is so supportive and IF I'D LISTEN it wouldn't be so damn hard. Maybe this was the breaking point. You so hit the nail on the head! It's a maze!! I just keep getting lost. Loving the yoga and walking!!! Less stressful as far as time. I do it when I can and want. |
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Post by west4thavenue on Aug 15, 2014 17:07:25 GMT -5
I'm doing great, Amy. Thank you for asking. I feel SO much better. Enjoying my life more than I have in years!
One day last week, I put on a pair of 2X pants to go out to lunch with a friend -- I haven't bought new clothes yet. I put my cell phone in my pocket and the damned pants FELL OFF!  Went digging around in my closets and found an old pair of size 12 pants. They were loose, but stayed on. I've been holding out for a smaller size, but I know I have to get something to wear out of the house other than shorts and big tee shirts. |
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Post by amydroe on Aug 15, 2014 18:45:50 GMT -5
I am SOOOOO glad to hear this!!! Makes my heart swell : * That's too funny! I am goodwills fave customer these days! I certainly will not spend very much on things that I will grow out of in a few weeks! I'm DYING to wear a skirt!!! I CAN NOT WAIT!!!!!! As soon as fall hits I am buying a sexy black pencil skirt, some black tights, sexy heels and I'm going to spins the guys heads all day at work! Well, that's my fantasy anyway! I sure hope it goes something like that I've never actually worn a skirt I have a feeling it may not! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 20:01:10 GMT -5
I won't tell your DH..... wink wink.....
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Post by amydroe on Aug 16, 2014 4:25:38 GMT -5
I won't tell your DH..... wink wink..... He's all good with me turning heads and me turning my head! But that's where his "ok with" ends!  ))) |
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Post by historytracker on Aug 16, 2014 6:32:31 GMT -5
Holly cow - 116 gm carb. Don't you hate it how they sneak those in. I had a get together at my house and of course I made appetizers. I had fresh mozzarella, roasted red peppers, marinated artichoke hearts, salami, hummus and slices of bread. Of course there were plenty of protein sources, but I needed to throw out the bread the next day. I cannot have temptations in this house.
It would be nice to find an alternative sweet to satisfy that craving that was low carb.
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Post by Girlrocker on Aug 16, 2014 11:09:08 GMT -5
I'm grinning Amy with you, and not at you. Good girl. Stick around, it really does help a LOT throughout this whole process. Check in on the Weekly Weigh In & Whatever Else thread that starts on Sunday - its about not just the scale, but all the things we deal with in the weight loss/management process, just as you've talked about here, for instance. No matter where we are in the process. Good to see you. |
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Post by illinids2 on Aug 16, 2014 13:29:56 GMT -5
and BTW, Amy. Carbs are okay, just try to get most of your carbs from veggies and other more complex sources. If you are going to have them, make them count.
and as you know the mantra..protein, protein, protein for the marathon. You are doing well so stop kicking yourself. You have lost 70 pounds in 5 months, that is fantastic.
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Post by amydroe on Aug 17, 2014 5:51:37 GMT -5
Holly cow - 116 gm carb. Don't you hate it how they sneak those in. I had a get together at my house and of course I made appetizers. I had fresh mozzarella, roasted red peppers, marinated artichoke hearts, salami, hummus and slices of bread. Of course there were plenty of protein sources, but I needed to throw out the bread the next day. I cannot have temptations in this house. It would be nice to find an alternative sweet to satisfy that craving that was low carb. I know!!! And that was just from SF werthers hard candies, mints, and 2 caramels a day!! Good for you for getting the junk out of the house. I freeze any candy hubs get (he loves it frozen and I HATE it! ) and I buy chips I don't like. I've for sure learned to spend the extra money on a single serv bag of junk food from a vending machine or checkout lane so there is not leftovers! I did make a new protein shake and I love it. Reminds me of a peanut butte cup blizzard. It's my normal unjury vanilla protein powder, heavy cream and almond milk. I Bought some PB2 and added a tbsp. Very yummy!!! I don't like to eat in the eve for some reason. So this is something I can have to satisfy my sweet tooth and get my protein. Hope you are well!!! |
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Post by amydroe on Aug 17, 2014 5:55:44 GMT -5
Ohhh boy! I wouldn't blame you if you did laugh at me on this one! I'll admit I sure did!! After I kicked myself in the ass!
I am going to make that my goal. To check in every Sunday just to get back into the routine. I've been stupid busy lately :/
Hope you are well !!
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Post by amydroe on Aug 17, 2014 5:59:34 GMT -5
and BTW, Amy. Carbs are okay, just try to get most of your carbs from veggies and other more complex sources. If you are going to have them, make them count. and as you know the mantra..protein, protein, protein for the marathon. You are doing well so stop kicking yourself. You have lost 70 pounds in 5 months, that is fantastic. Thanks Scott! You've been an amazing help. I will incorporate some veggies again this week now that I'm back on track. I took them out because that's all I would eat I didn't want my meat at all. Ohh, and by the way, that's 84 pounds mister )))) And counting! I have a week to go! |
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Post by Joanne on Aug 17, 2014 8:20:46 GMT -5
Hi Amy,
Those little bites really add up! If you're reaching for something, just to have "something", try nuts or cheese. They were a go-to life saver for me for the first year, when I could eat so little at a time and constantly grazed.
I also rarely wore skirts when I was heavier, and now I love to wear them. I also found skirts and dresses to be very helpful when I was still losing. Since they dont have to fit as tailored as pants or jeans, they're more forgiving as you go through sizes. During my loss phase, I wore sundresses all summer and sweater dresses and tights all winter. I got so much more mileage out of them vs pants or jeans.
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Post by amydroe on Aug 17, 2014 8:34:06 GMT -5
Hi Amy, Those little bites really add up! If you're reaching for something, just to have "something", try nuts or cheese. They were a go-to life saver for me for the first year, when I could eat so little at a time and constantly grazed. I also rarely wore skirts when I was heavier, and now I love to wear them. I also found skirts and dresses to be very helpful when I was still losing. Since they dont have to fit as tailored as pants or jeans, they're more forgiving as you go through sizes. During my loss phase, I wore sundresses all summer and sweater dresses and tights all winter. I got so much more mileage out of them vs pants or jeans. Hi Joanne! Boy they do add up quick! And all for nothing. I just wanted to busy my mouth. No more of that! I take 2 oz of cubed cheese to work every day and eat that. And I keep mixed nuts and those flavored nuts at work and munch on those. I'm SOOOO sick of eggs, cheese, bacon, and nuts I want to scream!!! I have tried a few dresses and they aren't awful, but they have to be below the knee (I am a melted candle from the bottom of the knees up ) and has to have sleeves (my arms are a sloppy mess). that doesn't leave much to choose from I feel really guilty being disappointed in my body still after having lost84 pounds. But the fact is, my body gets ickier the smaller I get. I hope some of that works itself out over time. No matter, I'm loving the transformation! This week has been full of NSV again. Love them! And I'm finding creative ways to hide the flaws. |
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Post by west4thavenue on Aug 17, 2014 9:42:54 GMT -5
I'm wholly with you on the melted candle syndrome. Only I was thinking I look more like a Sharpei, actually. On the other hand, I will be able to dress myself to disguise these skin issues, whereas it was impossible for me to disguise the 100 or so excess pounds that were ju-u-u-u-ust about do my l'il ol' heart right in! 
I'm accustomed to wearing sleeves. I carried so much weight on my arms and upper body that I haven't gone sleeveless in years. It's not a bother. In fact, it's going to be a necessity, I think, because frankly, my dear, I'm a little on the cool side these days. Can you believe it? It's August and it's Texas, and I'm not breaking a sweat unless I am exercising and trying to do so. I LOVE this! Me. Not drowning in perspiration. How absolutely serene of me, don't you think? Perhaps I shall take up poker playing.  |
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Post by illinids2 on Aug 17, 2014 10:14:39 GMT -5
and BTW, Amy. Carbs are okay, just try to get most of your carbs from veggies and other more complex sources. If you are going to have them, make them count. and as you know the mantra..protein, protein, protein for the marathon. You are doing well so stop kicking yourself. You have lost 70 pounds in 5 months, that is fantastic. Thanks Scott! You've been an amazing help. I will incorporate some veggies again this week now that I'm back on track. I took them out because that's all I would eat I didn't want my meat at all. Ohh, and by the way, that's 84 pounds mister )))) And counting! I have a week to go! 84 .. sweet! And you got it on the veggies, can't get in the way of your protein. |
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Post by illinids2 on Aug 17, 2014 10:21:37 GMT -5
On the skin issues as we lose, I have the flappy/flop arms and the bottom of my butt (which is nonexistent now - no-ass-uh-tol) where it meats my thigh is loose as hell. That and some skin and a little fat from stomach and pure area forms a little bump (gets smaller every month but the last little bit to lose)....I know some of this will tighten up after another year or so, but unfortunately some of it is inevitable.
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Post by Joanne on Aug 17, 2014 13:00:08 GMT -5
It makes me sad Amy, to hear you talk about how much the excess skin bothers you. I had plastics, so I cant say mine didn't bother me, too. But honestly - before I had plastics and even if I never had plastics, I still preferred the skin to the extra 150 pounds I had. First and foremost, I am healthier. But even from a pure appearance standpoint, I still think it's ok. We tend to be our worst critics.
I went through a period of time where I was very critical of my body. It was as if the more I lost, the more unhappy I would be about certain things. I think for me it was because when I was obese, there was no hiding it. There was nothing I could do to change it, so I was more accpeting of it. But you know what? Take a good look around you at other people, especially now because it's summer. You'll notice that no one is perfect. No one, unless maybe you're a model, is immune to some flab, bump, or cottage cheese somehere. We just never notice unless we're looking for it, because it's all in the realm of a normal body.
That's not to say that I dont understand what you're saying about the skin. I did my share of hiding it - but was glad I had to choice to do that. As said above, I could hide my thighs and arms, but there was no way I could hide 150 pounds.
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Post by Joanne on Aug 17, 2014 13:01:50 GMT -5
It makes me sad Amy, to hear you talk about how much the excess skin bothers you. I had plastics, so I cant say mine didn't bother me, too. But honestly - before I had plastics and even if I never had plastics, I still preferred the skin to the extra 150 pounds I had. First and foremost, I am healthier. But even from a pure appearance standpoint, I still think it's ok. We tend to be our worst critics.
I went through a period of time where I was very critical of my body. It was as if the more I lost, the more unhappy I would be about certain things. I think for me it was because when I was obese, there was no hiding it. There was nothing I could do to change it, so I was more accpeting of it. But you know what? Take a good look around you at other people, especially now because it's summer. You'll notice that no one is perfect. No one, unless maybe you're a model, is immune to some flab, bump, or cottage cheese somehere. We just never notice unless we're looking for it, because it's all in the realm of a normal body.
That's not to say that I dont understand what you're saying about the skin. I did my share of hiding it - but was glad I had the choice to do that. As said above, I could hide my thighs and arms, but there was no way I could hide 150 pounds.
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Post by Joanne on Aug 17, 2014 13:02:54 GMT -5
I'm sorry - that's the second time today I double posted. I'd love to blame it on my computer, but I'm certain it has more to do with this 40 pound Golden Retreiver puppy on my lap She's the little sister of the big guy with me in my avi. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 8:18:08 GMT -5
Uh, Hate to break it to you Scott, It doesn't tighten up... Gravity is B. I. T. C. H. .... It might get better with the muscle be built later, but as far as just waiting it out, yeah, not so much...
I have my floppy Pannis, the Butt folds at the thighs, skin folds at my elbows (when they are bent). and can pinch and pull on skin everywhere, muscles flexed, or not.. I'm like the Rubber Man, You can stretch my skin lots, some places more than others.. (not being perverse here, get your minds out of the gutters.. LOL) But, I won't have PS.. This is my WLS badge of honor. I wear it proudly.
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Post by newyorkbitch on Aug 18, 2014 16:13:50 GMT -5
I had a lot of plastics. I was very lucky to be able to afford it. I don't think it's sad to feel bad about the excess skin - the excess skin is really awful and hard to live with for a lot of people. Which is not to say that the tradeoff isn't worth it - but it doesn't make it easy. I felt deformed before my plastics, I was deformed. I was also deformed when I was obese, but I can't say one was worse than the other, psychologically. Certainly obesity was much more dangerous for my health, but the excess skin was psychologically debilitating. To say it wasn't repulsive would just be a lie. I don't think we need to tell people not to feel bad about it - it is bad, and it's okay to feel bad about it. That doesn't mean the weight loss isn't a great thing, but the fact that the weight is off doesn't change how bad the excess skin is for a lot of people.
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Post by Joanne on Aug 18, 2014 17:25:12 GMT -5
I had a lot of plastics. I was very lucky to be able to afford it. I don't think it's sad to feel bad about the excess skin - the excess skin is really awful and hard to live with for a lot of people. Which is not to say that the tradeoff isn't worth it - but it doesn't make it easy. I felt deformed before my plastics, I was deformed. I was also deformed when I was obese, but I can't say one was worse than the other, psychologically. Certainly obesity was much more dangerous for my health, but the excess skin was psychologically debilitating. To say it wasn't repulsive would just be a lie. I don't think we need to tell people not to feel bad about it - it is bad, and it's okay to feel bad about it. That doesn't mean the weight loss isn't a great thing, but the fact that the weight is off doesn't change how bad the excess skin is for a lot of people. I see your point, and thanks for giving me some different perspective to think about. I do feel bad that she feels sad about it I realize everyone has their own issues and what really bothers one person may not be the same level of concern for another. It doesnt make either person right or wrong, and everyone has the right to feel the way that they do. And I realize I'm saying this as someone who also had a boatload of plastics, and relatively early in my process. I didn't live with my skin for too long, so I'm probably lacking some real appreciation to how difficult / upsetting it can really be. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 19:16:24 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I understand that the excess skin can be really bad for some. It's just not bad for me. Nothing against anyone that has had plastics, its just not for me.
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I talked with Marc and Scott. They both gave me tips and encouragement. Finally Tuesday I decided to put every last bite I ate into MFP. I have always put my food in. This time though, I put my SF mints and gum and SF Russell Stover caramels and turtles in. HOLLY HELL!!!! I was eating one caramel in the late morn. One in the early afternoon. And mints ALL day! That's where I found my issue. 21 carbs in each caramel and 2 each mint and gum. I was getting 116g carbs a day!!!!
Went digging around in my closets and found an old pair of size 12 pants. They were loose, but stayed on. I've been holding out for a smaller size, but I know I have to get something to wear out of the house other than shorts and big tee shirts.
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