michaelp
Junior Member
Posts: 65 
Surgery Type: DS
Surgery Date: June 30, 2014
Surgeon: Dr Greenbaum
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Post by michaelp on Jul 10, 2014 20:06:01 GMT -5
Yo Guys, I know how we guys show friendship is by totally busting on each other but in some cases we really need to take a lesson from the women. Heck, put 3 women in a room and I guy and have one of the women say the moon is made from cheese and the other 2 will back her up with their dying breath (then talk about her when she leaves the room). But this is a serious topic one guy should have helped out on - pre-surgical shaving. I swear the person who shaved my stomach carved their signature into me. Swear to God - the shaved area left open wounds and are still bleeding 10 days after surgery! I had an open DS and that has healed better. We really have to work on the Bro-Code, some things are funny this is NOT! From now on, any of our buds having surgery on any place there is hair - PLEASE warn them! FYI, I was telling the woman who cuts my hair and she said you should have the area waxed a week beforehand - I don't know if I'd go that far nor what that would cost but I'd do MUCH better than the sadist who shaved me. enough said - hope we're all on the same page in the future.  |
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Post by goodkel on Jul 10, 2014 21:36:01 GMT -5
I am sorry that an aid who was having a bad day took it out on you. You would think that going into surgery, they would want fewer open wounds on you, not more. But, yes, this is a good opportunity to warn other men about the pre-surgical shaving. Perhaps you could have done it yourself the night before? Waxing would work, but most men I know couldn't handle the pain and frankly, on top of pre-surgery jitters, I do not want to deal with a bunch of men in here crying about the waxing.  |
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Post by Girlrocker on Jul 10, 2014 21:46:28 GMT -5
Eeeep, who knew?! We gals do tell it all and no detail left unturned; I don't think I've ever heard this mentioned before so consider yourself proud for doing a public service, albeit at your misfortune! I got news for you, I DON'T wax, anything, no thanks! There are hair removal products on the market that would probably do the trick for this, since it's short term and doesn't have to be 'perfect'. Glad to hear on all other fronts you are doing well post-op!
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Misty
Junior Member
Posts: 60 
Surgery Type: DS
Surgery Date: 07/22/2014
Surgeon: Dr. Hazem Elariny
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Post by Misty on Jul 10, 2014 22:27:11 GMT -5
I was reading Dr K's handbook the other day and read this: "Do Not Shave: The operative field (abdomen) 10 days or more before surgery. Shaving can cause microscopic abrasions to the skin, which can increase risk of infections." I guess different hospitals do it differently. Doesn't appear that waxing or chemicals are banned. Funny thing is, when I read this I never even thought of males, I just pictured a woman with a hairy belly and thought, well that's weird.  Of course, that's coming from a woman that's recently discovered a few chin hairs that return like clockwork every few days despite my tweezer attacks. |
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Post by bboop on Jul 10, 2014 23:00:51 GMT -5
Ouch! I'm sorry that happened to you.
For all newbies...use a depilatory before surgery. I swear I don't remember being shaved...I really don't and I had an open DS.
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Post by bradleyp on Jul 11, 2014 2:06:00 GMT -5
My hair still hasn't fully grown back in places... I'll be a year out on the 22nd.  |
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Post by mark540 on Jul 11, 2014 10:19:16 GMT -5
I didn't have any shaving done. Kind of smooth skinned. They did put some type of plastic tape across my entire abdomen and ripped it off before i awoke. Only ripped out about half the hair there was. Same with plastics to remove excess skin. No shaving 10 days before.
Sorry you had this happen but as my daughter has been know to say: "Sucks for you!"
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michaelp
Junior Member
Posts: 65
Surgery Type: DS
Surgery Date: June 30, 2014
Surgeon: Dr Greenbaum
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Post by michaelp on Jul 11, 2014 11:17:43 GMT -5
I didn't have any shaving done. Kind of smooth skinned. They did put some type of plastic tape across my entire abdomen and ripped it off before i awoke. Only ripped out about half the hair there was. Same with plastics to remove excess skin. No shaving 10 days before. Sorry you had this happen but as my daughter has been know to say: "Sucks for you!" Mark - the "bro-code" common now! |
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Post by historytracker on Jul 11, 2014 17:58:59 GMT -5
Michael - I would have done the waxing. You cannot trust anyone while you are sleeping. How much do you remember from the OR room? Greenbaum had his team ready to set you up with foley, measuring you for compression boots and whatever else you needed to get you ready. The last thing I remember are putting on the compression boots.
Guess you should talk to Greenbaum or complain on the survey that the hospital sends you. From reading the post, every doctor is different in what they require. Hope your cuts and nicks heal fast!
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michaelp
Junior Member
Posts: 65
Surgery Type: DS
Surgery Date: June 30, 2014
Surgeon: Dr Greenbaum
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Post by michaelp on Jul 12, 2014 10:08:23 GMT -5
Michael - I would have done the waxing. You cannot trust anyone while you are sleeping. How much do you remember from the OR room? Greenbaum had his team ready to set you up with foley, measuring you for compression boots and whatever else you needed to get you ready. The last thing I remember are putting on the compression boots. Guess you should talk to Greenbaum or complain on the survey that the hospital sends you. From reading the post, every doctor is different in what they require. Hope your cuts and nicks heal fast! Thanks! We'll have to talk offline regarding the ICU nursing. |
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Post by goodkel on Jul 12, 2014 21:19:20 GMT -5
My hair still hasn't fully grown back in places... I'll be a year out on the 22nd. Now ya'll are coming out of the woodwork about this.  What else have you been hiding from us? |
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Post by kyal on Jul 12, 2014 21:30:24 GMT -5
No shaving pre DS here.
My plastic surgeon has stipulated no hair on the surgical site and recommended waxing a week before my tummy tuck and boob job. Yikes!
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Post by goodkel on Jul 12, 2014 21:43:03 GMT -5
Hey hot Aussie! Nice to see you!
When are your plastics?
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Post by kyal on Jul 12, 2014 23:32:49 GMT -5
Hey Kel
Not soon enough. Was going to be July 28 but I convinced them to do two procedures and had to rebook for October 13.
Because of the massive amount of skin to take off she didn't want to do more than the tummy to start with. I managed to convince her that I would be depressed and unsatisfied if I saw man boobs and no belly. She caved and has agreed to do both. She also agreed to a flue de lis tummy tuck as a halfway compromise between a full body lift. I'm literally a tent of skin now, there's just too much work to do all at once.
Can't wait though.
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Post by goodkel on Jul 13, 2014 0:32:55 GMT -5
I have seen great results with the fleur de lis. It sounds like your surgeon knows what he's talking about with excess skin. I think it will take away many skin issues for you.
After your double surgery in Oct., you'll probably be done after arms and thighs, if you think you need them.
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Post by kyal on Jul 13, 2014 6:27:30 GMT -5
I may still need some work done on the back and my booty but the fleur de lis should get me to a point where I feel comfortable and can buy clothing for my real size. Under the flab and skin I'm actually very small framed. So much for big boned.
Arms and legs will be done next year but I need to have some varicose veins treated first. My legs need particular attention and downsizing, arms are a little flappy but not the highest priority.
I felt great after the weight loss for a while. Like a million dollars. But now the reality of what I did to my body has kicked in and the damage left behind has now become an area of dissatisfaction that I need to address for both physical and psychological reasons.
I didn't like my surgeon at first but I've warmed to her after the second consult. I'm going interstate to a smaller area where medical care is less expensive and she has a very good reputation. I was seriously considering India and depending on insurance coverage for arms and legs that might be unavoidable at some point. I don't know if they will be covered as medically necessary.
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Post by Leonie on Jul 13, 2014 6:39:26 GMT -5
Hi Kyal
Plastics is another milestone in our journey. It sucks when surgery has to be postponed, mut it is great when we can get more out of it. I also cancelled June 24 for Aug 28. I will be with a much better surgeon and hopefully NOT get the fleur de lis. Most of my loose skin is in the panni area, but scar tissue might necessitate a vertical cut.
Good luck with the wait.
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Post by xr7conv on Jul 13, 2014 20:45:47 GMT -5
Wow - I never even thought of this. It was not an issue with me at all. Not real hairy anyway but didn't have that as a problem.
Sorry you did. That really stinks! It is on the list now - at least ask your surgeon.
Dave
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Post by kyal on Jul 14, 2014 4:22:27 GMT -5
They're gonna wax you for free when they rip the dressings off Dave ;-)
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Post by fatmackn on Jul 20, 2014 9:08:40 GMT -5
I didn't like my surgeon at first but I've warmed to her after the second consult. I'm going interstate to a smaller area where medical care is less expensive and she has a very good reputation. I was seriously considering India and depending on insurance coverage for arms and legs that might be unavoidable at some point. I don't know if they will be covered as medically necessary. After your last interstate escapade to "save money" on surgery almost cost ur life, I'm surprised your contemplating doing it all over again |
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Post by kyal on Jul 21, 2014 8:55:11 GMT -5
This surgeon is highly experienced and well regarded. I wouldn't use her otherwise.
Also in Australia provided you choose a FRACS registered and certified plastic and reconstructive surgeon you should be ok. Plastics, unlike weightloss surgery is a highly trained specialty with high standards. Poor work in plastics is very unforgiving and word gets around. This is unlike weightloss surgery where any general surgeon can do a weekend course and put in lapbands.
Big difference.
Of course due diligence has been done. References checked, APRHA records checked for misconduct, lawsuits and disciplinary action and before and after photos seen. Can't do much more than that.
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Post by goodkel on Jul 21, 2014 15:51:55 GMT -5
This surgeon is highly experienced and well regarded. I wouldn't use her otherwise. Also in Australia provided you choose a FRACS registered and certified plastic and reconstructive surgeon you should be ok. Plastics, unlike weightloss surgery is a highly trained specialty with high standards. Poor work in plastics is very unforgiving and word gets around. This is unlike weightloss surgery where any general surgeon can do a weekend course and put in lapbands. Big difference. Of course due diligence has been done. References checked, APRHA records checked for misconduct, lawsuits and disciplinary action and before and after photos seen. Can't do much more than that. People who didn't follow your efforts to get your DS are just not aware of all the research you did and the many smart decisions you made. Less expensive does not necessarily mean less qualified. |
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Post by fatmackn on Jul 22, 2014 6:47:40 GMT -5
Yeah I meant the followup tho if u get stuck in a different state like what happened with the sleeve where u got an abcess and no one knew what was going on until u required emergency surgery. I don't think the admin was aware of the sleeve u had
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 7:56:31 GMT -5
I may still need some work done on the back and my booty but the fleur de lis should get me to a point where I feel comfortable and can buy clothing for my real size. Under the flab and skin I'm actually very small framed. So much for big boned. Yeah, Big boned. LOL.... I though I was too, but I'm not. I'm just average (well average to small framed,) I'm way smaller than I thought I would EVER be. |
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Post by goodkel on Jul 22, 2014 19:05:45 GMT -5
Yeah I meant the followup tho if u get stuck in a different state like what happened with the sleeve where u got an abcess and no one knew what was going on until u required emergency surgery. I don't think the admin was aware of the sleeve u had People travel across the country and to different countries to get the DS. There is nothing different about a stomach with a sleeve than a regular stomach except the size. It does not take a bariatric surgeon to treat an abscess. We've had a couple of members recently whose DS surgeons were totally incompetent about it. When someone travels for surgery, it is commonplace for them to spend a few days in a local hotel after they are released from the hospital just in case a post op complication should arise. I had my DS across the continent in Mexico seven years ago. Since I left for the airport to come home, I have not communicated with him once. I had an internal hernia that caused a bowel obstruction and required emergency surgery in 2010. No one needed to contact my DS surgeon. But, I wish I hadn't been so distracted by screaming from the pain that I forgot to request to see a plastic surgeon...  |
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Of course, that's coming from a woman that's recently discovered a few chin hairs that return like clockwork every few days despite my tweezer attacks. 
