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Post by Girlrocker on Jul 10, 2014 19:26:09 GMT -5
It's very normal to feel bad physically and even more so, emotionally. It's a big crash afterward and being revisions, it can be that much harder for us - as in, "how am I in this place....again". I was so happy to have a second chance, and yet, I also cried being rolled into surgery so hard that my nurse put her hand on my shoulder and asked if I'd changed my mind...and then I cried every day for two weeks after. Anesthesia wreaks havoc on the body and hormones. Take it one day at a time, and know that this IS your second chance, to help you do what you tried to in the first place. It's not your fault the RNY didn't work for you; you want to be healthy, maintain your weightloss for the rest of your life and you took the only step you could to make that happen. I can empathize with all the fear and anxiety about failing again too, I felt a pile-up of how many years I've spent dealing with this. And then I dusted myself off, came here every day, several times a day if needed, and focused on getting a re-do and doing everything I could to make it successful. You CAN do this!
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Post by west4thavenue on Jul 10, 2014 19:41:11 GMT -5
Sharyl's absolutely right. It is very common to feel bad following any kind of change or trauma, and you have been feeling anxious for weeks! Give yourself some time. Immediate post op is certainly not the best part of this journey, either. You did your homework and went for the best available tool. Give yourself a chance to enjoy success.
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Post by cherylbaker on Jul 10, 2014 20:18:43 GMT -5
Thanks guys. . It is hard cause even though I did not want my family to know about my bypass they did find out. It was bad enough gaining the weight back but than to put me thorough the whole surgery thing again. Just like last time I made up a cover story[in my bypass the cover story is I was having my gallbladder out. This time I am doing this do I can take the nsaids for my arthritis . Neither was a lie just a little withholding of facts. My family loves me just the way I am and do not understand what it's like. This experience has been nothing like my bypass and nothung like what I have read on the Internet. Have not eaten or drank anything since 9 pm Sunday night. The pain is less than I remember but the bloated stomach is the same. Having the cat scan with Contrast [or somwthing] tomorrow at 8am.. guess we will seen than how I an doing Going to try and get some sleep now Hopefully I we I'll start some kind of eating or drinking tomorow
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Post by goodkel on Jul 10, 2014 20:41:33 GMT -5
Every day is going to get better. Sleep well.
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Post by nursemelanie on Jul 10, 2014 21:01:24 GMT -5
You are in my thoughts
VSG to DS w/ gallbladder removal, adhesion removals & repair of hiatal hernia 7-01-14/ Dr Boyce, Knoxville, TN /Age 40/5'8"/HW 287/SW 270/CW 260
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Post by cherylbaker on Jul 11, 2014 15:19:39 GMT -5
So Over 5 Days With No Liquids Or food. Not even ice chips. Dr roslin came and saw me Wednesday and that's it. I am in Serious depression right now. I haven't slept well here and so I exhausted as well as frustrated. I do not understand why my stay isn't going the way it is suppose to. I walk walk walk and use my breaching Now I can't use .my phone cause it bends my elbow who sets the alarm off on the stupid iv.machine which they me this morning was coming off and k would be going home bit now I am not an don't even know why
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Post by teachermomolp on Jul 11, 2014 16:23:51 GMT -5
You will get better! Keep your chin up! Look forward to a year from now! I remember thinking, "What the hell did I do to myself now?" but you WILL improve. Keep checking in- let us know how it's going!
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Post by newyorkbitch on Jul 11, 2014 16:53:52 GMT -5
Cheryl, you need to ask a doctor why you have been NPO for so long and when you will be allowed to drink...and eat.
And you need to understand why you are still in the hospital and when you can expect to leave.
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Post by cherylbaker on Jul 11, 2014 17:17:34 GMT -5
I would if one would come see me. . But one has not come tried dr roslin s number but no luck
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Post by newyorkbitch on Jul 11, 2014 17:23:54 GMT -5
Ask the nurse - tell her you need to see the attending physician on the floor.
Tell her your questions and tell her you need answers. Believe me, they can get in touch with Roslin.
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Post by Girlrocker on Jul 11, 2014 17:30:48 GMT -5
I would if one would come see me. . But one has not come tried dr roslin s number but no luck This is unacceptable, for you to be NPO and not be told you are, why, or how long. Your nurses know how to get in touch with him. It's also unconscionable that he has not seen you ONCE on rounds after you've had a revision. Unfortunately this lack of aftercare is part of the downside of his reputation as a good cutter. You are probably weak and exhausted, but you must not stop asking, insisting on seeing him.
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Post by newyorkbitch on Jul 11, 2014 17:34:09 GMT -5
Ask to read your chart.
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Post by cherylbaker on Jul 11, 2014 17:43:57 GMT -5
My husband finally showed up and I told him He needs to up there butts fir me. SUPPOSEDLY 2 min before he we t out there the got the results and I 9 to clear liquids and assuming that goes well I will be going home. I didn't expect to see Dr roslin On Thursday cause he is at the other office all day o. Thursdsy.. but i did expect to see him today with the results of my upper gi. Oh well may e I lost a couple of lbs ha ha ha
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Post by newyorkbitch on Jul 11, 2014 17:46:23 GMT -5
Perhaps he is being extra cautious with you because of your revision issues. Sounds like everything is okay - your upper GI results came back, and now you can drink.
It's also possible that when he saw you on Wednesday you didn't understand everything he said - that is very common in the postop period.
But now you'll drink, and if all goes well you will feel better and better and go home.
When is your followup appointment with him scheduled?
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Post by Girlrocker on Jul 11, 2014 18:32:17 GMT -5
Well I'm glad to hear you are released and cleared for fluids. Being NPO the first week isn't shocking, given that you are a revision; I was on a feeding tube for six weeks because my surgeon was very cautious with me. But you should be told what your plan of treatment is and why, did he actually mention any of this when you saw him? Do you have your first follow-up scheduled yet?
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Post by maggiesara on Jul 11, 2014 22:06:50 GMT -5
Roslin is good about responding to emails. His email address is mroslin@nshs.edu I would email him immediately, tell him you need a clear explanation -- in LAYPERSON'S TERMS (he's not good about remembering that) -- of what's going on. I wouldn't bother going through his PA.
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Post by nursemelanie on Jul 11, 2014 22:19:59 GMT -5
Happy to hear this 7-1-14 VSG to DS w/ gallbladder removal, adhesion removals & repair of hiatal hernia Dr Boyce, Knoxville, TN HW 282 /SW 270 /CW 258/ loss to date 24 lbs
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Post by Girlrocker on Jul 12, 2014 10:33:15 GMT -5
Maggie, great suggestion, very helpful!
Cheryl, let us know how you are. I know your home situation is complicated with your family, and not knowing or not knowing/understanding about the surgery, what you had had, why, how it works. Right now you need to focus on taking care of yourself, you will get a lot of support here to help you through. Keep your explanations to them simple if they ask, and if they say unsupportive, hurtful things, ignore it as best you can for now. You did this to get healthy, you know why you did it, it is a well thought out decision. Most important you do what you need now to recover from major surgery.
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Post by cherylbaker on Jul 12, 2014 13:15:07 GMT -5
Thanks fir the words of support. My saga continued up till I couldn't take it anymore and told them I'm leaving with or without their permission. I took advice from someone on here and emailed Dr roslin and he called the hospital and one of his partners to cone talk to me and if they though I was Fine to get me released. Even after that they were dragging there feet. They said I had 2 wait 2 hrs even though the paperwork was done so they can run some magnesium ot potassium (forget whivh) and than they would give me some percaaet for the ride home. . I said screw you and took 2 of the ones from my prescription they wrote me. Kinda passed cause it's tablets sms my husband went to them to try a d get liquid but they said there was no liquid. So npw I have to mash them up and put them im a drink.. But we are driving home now and no pain so the painkiller is working. I never would have made it through this without you guys ... Dr roslin changed my appt to next Thursday so he can take the drain out. I never want to go to that hospital sgsin. You push the buzzer for help and some nurses helper shows up (who cat do anything for you so I dint get the point) and says they will tell the nurse.. nurse comes and says ok o will take care of that and dissappear and is never seen again. You need try sgain.. very frustrating. But in my way home now ha ppy hap pot dance:)
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Post by newyorkbitch on Jul 12, 2014 13:21:31 GMT -5
What were the results of the magnesium or potassium they wanted to draw?
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Post by cherylbaker on Jul 12, 2014 13:30:36 GMT -5
Both magnesium and potassium were on the low kevel. One was 1 pt below normal and one was exactly on the MN inimum. I was.pissed because she went to get the pain med and was suppose to be coming right back but 30 m I Ater still no sign so I sought out help and dome else started it I just didn't get the whole hr dose but I couldn't stay I that hospital for one more second.
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Post by newyorkbitch on Jul 12, 2014 13:31:29 GMT -5
What did they recommend for your magnesium and potassium?
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Post by cherylbaker on Jul 13, 2014 17:40:53 GMT -5
They didn't recommend anything. They said the levels were ok they just like topping them off b4 people leave.
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Post by cherylbaker on Jul 16, 2014 20:36:53 GMT -5
So despite taking it easy today I had another horrible day. This is soo hard I am the one who takes care if others and honestly my husband hasn't a clue. I am in soo much physical and emotional pain and ad if that's not enough my rls is back full force .. i just can't stand even being in my body at all. I just laid in bed crying most of the day. I am going to fail again and be a disappointment to everyone again and all this agony will be for nothing. I don't know what craziness theropy put in my head that I could do this. Damn arthritis damn rls damn being fat. All I wanted ever in my life was to be a normal friggin person .. nothing special just regular. . I dunno why that is so friggin hard
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Post by Girlrocker on Jul 17, 2014 9:10:18 GMT -5
Cheryl, taking it easy isn't going to be a reward to feeling better. This is part of the post-op recovery, you have had a revision from an RNY to a DS. and this is a very complicated surgery, the pain management might take longer, plus you have other pain issues. My laproscopic RNY was easy by comparison, I was just tired and gassy. Using your post-op RNY experience as a guideline of what to expect in recovery from the revision isn't realstic. You WILL get past this, these are your first couple of weeks post op, each week will get better, but yes, it's normal to feel like you were hit by a mack truck and rolled over the other direction, even virgin DS surgeries have felt that way You can take pain medication now, and should do so until the pain is manageable. What are you on? I used liquid versions of my narcotic, lortab, and tylenol, so I didn't have to swallow pills. I'm sure there has to be a version of ibuprofen/nsaid that comes in liquid now. You also need to call your therapist, if you are physically unable to get to a visit, ask if they will do phone session instead, most of them will. I also recommend you getting on some anti-anxiety medication to help the consuming anxiety and panic you are experiencing. I know it has to be so isolating to have your husband or anyone in your family not understand, and likely, watching/judging. But you HAVE to let go of that, it only hampers your recovery to be in this much distress. Breathe, give yourself time to heal, follow the plan - sip, try to get in 48oz fluid, 30g protein, walk, rest, take pain medication, repeat. So despite taking it easy today I had another horrible day. This is soo hard I am the one who takes care if others and honestly my husband hasn't a clue. I am in soo much physical and emotional pain and ad if that's not enough my rls is back full force .. i just can't stand even being in my body at all. I just laid in bed crying most of the day. I am going to fail again and be a disappointment to everyone again and all this agony will be for nothing. I don't know what craziness theropy put in my head that I could do this. Damn arthritis damn rls damn being fat. All I wanted ever in my life was to be a normal friggin person .. nothing special just regular. . I dunno why that is so friggin hard
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Post by goodkel on Jul 17, 2014 12:18:19 GMT -5
So despite taking it easy today I had another horrible day. This is soo hard I am the one who takes care if others and honestly my husband hasn't a clue. I am in soo much physical and emotional pain and ad if that's not enough my rls is back full force .. i just can't stand even being in my body at all. I just laid in bed crying most of the day. I am going to fail again and be a disappointment to everyone again and all this agony will be for nothing. I don't know what craziness theropy put in my head that I could do this. Damn arthritis damn rls damn being fat. All I wanted ever in my life was to be a normal friggin person .. nothing special just regular. . I dunno why that is so friggin hard Nothing you are going through is out of the ordinary. You're supposed to feel like you were hit by a Mack truck. You had, all caps, MAJOR surgery and it is going to take a long time to heal. Now is the time for you to take care of only yourself. ONLY. Things may not be done the way you would do them or the way you would like them, but everyone will survive. Really. Give up trying to control what is out of your hands at the moment. Here is your daily itinerary for the next few weeks: 1. Sip, sip, sip 2. Walk, walk, walk--to the bathroom, to the kitchen to get your own drinks, don't allow anyone to wait on you 3. Rest, rest, rest 4. Plan all the fun things you'll be able to do next summer and the cute clothes you'll be fitting in while doing them You've had a flush of hormones and that affects your emotions. I agree with Sharyl's suggestion to contact a therapist because these negative emotions seem to be overwhelming you. You're not alone there, either. Some of the most successful DSers have had therapy to work out these issues. You know darn well that you did not fail the RnY. It failed you and there are plenty of first hand accounts as well as scientific studies here that verify that as well. Take that to heart and truly believe it. It is the truth. Meanwhile, look at all the failed DSers on this board. Count them. The DS will not fail you. You can do this. You will be fine.
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Post by cherylbaker on Jul 17, 2014 17:02:32 GMT -5
Thank heavens for the first time since surgery I feel like a human being. Yesterday I thought I would rather die than go on one more day. Woke up and was feeling ok. Stomach felt softer sp much I even leaned to my side and rested like that fir a few which made me feel almost like a person. Took the 3 hr trek to see Dr roslin and get my drain out.. another step towards being a real person. Didn't drink enough water and actually felt hungry. . Another step I guess to being a real person. Had a couple of side cramps but dr roslin said it's nothing to worry about .
He said I'm cheryl baker the touchdown maker.. Guess that means I did good. Weight loss 9 days 15 lbs. Let the party begin
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Post by Girlrocker on Jul 17, 2014 18:22:02 GMT -5
I'm glad you're having a good day and got the drain out; but honestly, after 9 days post op I don't understand how you were expecting to feel? HUGE surgery, huge recovery, very important to transition gently, you have a lot of healing to go yet, and you CAN do this and need to do it on yours and your body's time, no one elses. Thank heavens for the first time since surgery I feel like a human being. Yesterday I thought I would rather die than go on one more day. Woke up and was feeling ok. Stomach felt softer sp much I even leaned to my side and rested like that fir a few which made me feel almost like a person. Took the 3 hr trek to see Dr roslin and get my drain out.. another step towards being a real person. Didn't drink enough water and actually felt hungry. . Another step I guess to being a real person. Had a couple of side cramps but dr roslin said it's nothing to worry about . He said I'm cheryl baker the touchdown maker.. Guess that means I did good. Weight loss 9 days 15 lbs. Let the party begin
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Post by cherylbaker on Jul 17, 2014 21:13:29 GMT -5
Ha ha ha yah I underestimated how bad I would feel. It was just one day but it felt good. I needed it that's All I can say. I'm still tired and am always in bed by 10 and dint get up till 9 and usually take a nap. . So I. Getting plenty of rest
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Post by jpcello on Jul 18, 2014 4:39:18 GMT -5
Ha ha ha yah I underestimated how bad I would feel. It was just one day but it felt good. I needed it that's All I can say. I'm still tired and am always in bed by 10 and dint get up till 9 and usually take a nap. . So I. Getting plenty of rest Cheryl - you're supposed to be getting plenty of rest. You just had major surgery. Your body has been through a major trauma (compare it to getting hit by a truck) and it needs time to heal. You must listen to your body - if it says rest, then you should rest.
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