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Post by goodkel on Jul 24, 2014 0:53:05 GMT -5
Here is one for you. I had a veg in 2009, lost all the weight I wanted to. Then I lost my job and sat around for 2 years. I regained fast. So I had a DS, self paid, in Montreal. I have since gained 15 pounds. The DS is no miracle and don't let anyone let you think so. When people have stopped losing, there is often a bounce back of 10-20 pounds from their lowest weight. It doesn't happen right away, usually not until at least a couple of years into maintenance. Also, the DS provides you with a normal metabolism. Just like normal people who have never had bariatric surgery, we must watch our carbs or we will gain weight. And I think that it absolutely is something of a miracle to get a normal metabolism back. When my jeans start feeling a little tight, I only have to do what the rest of the world has to do to get the excess off: cut out the carbs and I lose the weight. If you are unhappy with those 15 pounds, what have you done to try to lose them?
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Post by mark540 on Jul 24, 2014 8:56:10 GMT -5
Here is one for you. I had a veg in 2009, lost all the weight I wanted to. Then I lost my job and sat around for 2 years. I regained fast. So I had a DS, self paid, in Montreal. I have since gained 15 pounds. The DS is no miracle and don't let anyone let you think so. When people have stopped losing, there is often a bounce back of 10-20 pounds from their lowest weight. It doesn't happen right away, usually not until at least a couple of years into maintenance. Also, the DS provides you with a normal metabolism. Just like normal people who have never had bariatric surgery, we must watch our carbs or we will gain weight. And I think that it absolutely is something of a miracle to get a normal metabolism back. When my jeans start feeling a little tight, I only have to do what the rest of the world has to do to get the excess off: cut out the carbs and I lose the weight. If you are unhappy with those 15 pounds, what have you done to try to lose them? Amen it is no miracle. It is a tool in your weight loss tool chest. A very powerful tool, but just a tool. Leave your tools out in the rain and they will rust. When they rust you need to bring them inside, a little steel wool, some WD-40, and effort in the form of elbow grease and they look right and work right once more. Cut the carbs, up the protein and water, do some exercise and in no time things will be as they were. We need to work at it. and btw... I'm fighting a 25 lb gain right now and it's work.
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Post by nicholivolkoff on Jul 24, 2014 18:55:02 GMT -5
Yes indeed, it is too bad I tried everything including the DS diet and low carb, excersies... etc. I did not lose a pound. Not only have I not lost, I gained. So great spending 15 grand.
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Post by newyorkbitch on Jul 24, 2014 19:27:36 GMT -5
Did you get down to your goal weight and then gain 15 pounds back?
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Post by illinids2 on Jul 24, 2014 19:48:43 GMT -5
Yes indeed, it is too bad I tried everything including the DS diet and low carb, excersies... etc. I did not lose a pound. Not only have I not lost, I gained. So great spending 15 grand. So what did you weigh pre-DS and what do you weigh now, or if not comfortable sharing your actual weight what was your loss before regaining 15 pounds. Everything is relative.
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Post by Joanne on Jul 24, 2014 20:27:33 GMT -5
Yes indeed, it is too bad I tried everything including the DS diet and low carb, excersies... etc. I did not lose a pound. Not only have I not lost, I gained. So great spending 15 grand. Did you get your op report and verify you have a true, standard DS? There was a surgeon in Montreal awhile back doing more experimental surgeries calling them "DS-like". The SADI and a bi-partition configuration come to mind.
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Post by goodkel on Jul 24, 2014 23:56:37 GMT -5
Yes. Who was your surgeon?
If you don't have one, you need to get a copy of your surgical report.
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Post by nicholivolkoff on Jul 25, 2014 15:44:44 GMT -5
My surgeon was Dr. Michel Gagner, I had a true DS not a SADI. I considered the sadi since I am not a heavyweight. But I wanted the true DS and got it, 100 cm common channel. I started out at 194, and am now 207. The surgery was last winter. I am not working these days, so maybe it is lack of excersise. But I mean, I expected more. Especially since my diet is low carb, and DS friendly all the time. I am one of the failures. Please don't respond and blame me. I just expected more.
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Post by goodkel on Jul 25, 2014 17:05:56 GMT -5
No, no, no. No one is going to blame you. Your results are unheard of. Even people who don't lose as much or as quickly as they would have liked, would have lost something. Not gained weight only 6 months after surgery.
While exercise helps, it would not be required for you to lose weight.
Do you have a hard copy of your surgery report?
Something is seriously not right here
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Post by newyorkbitch on Jul 25, 2014 18:54:51 GMT -5
Have you seen Dr. Gagner?
Have you tried to do 2 weeks of pure Atkins to see what happens?
I wonder if something is wrong that is not DS-related...
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Post by Joanne on Jul 25, 2014 20:13:24 GMT -5
My surgeon was Dr. Michel Gagner, I had a true DS not a SADI. I considered the sadi since I am not a heavyweight. But I wanted the true DS and got it, 100 cm common channel. I started out at 194, and am now 207. The surgery was last winter. I am not working these days, so maybe it is lack of excersise. But I mean, I expected more. Especially since my diet is low carb, and DS friendly all the time. I am one of the failures. Please don't respond and blame me. I just expected more. Of course no one is going to blame you. I just think it's important that you know a bit of history. Dr Gagner is a very talented surgeon, and one of the first real pioneers of the DS. The issues is over recent time we have heard of him doing different twists on the DS, different version, different configurations. The SADI is just one of them. I recall someone with something he called a "bi-oartition" DS. That is why I recommended you get a copy of your op report. It's also possible you're having fluid retention issues, hormonal issues - something. But something is not right. You should follow up with him. Dont just give up and assume ti didn't work. There is something more to this, I am certain.
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Post by nicholivolkoff on Jul 26, 2014 12:51:21 GMT -5
I have had bloodwork done and nothing unusual shows up, other than lack of calcium, vit D, and iron. I have been supplementing since. Thanks for not blaming me because I blame myself enough. I just don't move enough with chronic depression and being on sick leave for 3 years.
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Post by west4thavenue on Jul 26, 2014 14:24:40 GMT -5
OK. I COMPLETELY get the relationship between obesity and depression. I won't even go into how well I get it, but believe me I do. The hardest thing in the world to do when you are suffering from clinical depression is to move. But you MUST move. It is key for both the depression and the weight problem. I think you know this. One feeds the other. Neither your weight nor your depression is something you chose. It is all too easy to give up and be swallowed by both. Fighting it is what is hard.
Start walking. Somewhere. Get up get up get up. Get busy. Move. It will cost you nothing and will make a huge difference. Treat yourself the way you would treat a friend. Nothing will get better unless you move.
Get your thyroid checked. You need a complete thyroid panel. Get up, don't give up!
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Post by goodkel on Jul 26, 2014 20:35:16 GMT -5
I have had bloodwork done and nothing unusual shows up, other than lack of calcium, vit D, and iron. I have been supplementing since. Thanks for not blaming me because I blame myself enough. I just don't move enough with chronic depression and being on sick leave for 3 years. If something is wrong with your surgery, it won't show up in the blood work. But, your surgery report may provide a clue. This has nothing to do with you not exercising. Something is wrong and it is nothing YOU have done. Stop blaming yourself and let's start getting to work on fixing it.
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Post by nicholivolkoff on Jul 27, 2014 15:40:38 GMT -5
Thanks so much for the support, all. Actually, I had a hiatal hernia after the DS. So when after months of not losing anything, Dr. Gagner fixed my hernia, and also made my stomach a tiny bit smaller at the same time. So we did try harder after the first surgery. So now a total of 3 surgeries concerning weight loss. First was a vsg in 2009. That was the only one that worked, but I regained after being inactive on sick leave. I think it is all based on activity. You people are right when you say I must get up and move.
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Post by newyorkbitch on Jul 27, 2014 16:00:34 GMT -5
Can you please keep a log of everything you eat for a week and post it?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 14:45:56 GMT -5
We would also like to see your stats.
Height, hight weights low weights, date of all the WLS surgeries, and any revisions.
Doctors who did the surgeries, and the reports if you have them, or can get them.
This level sets us, and we can base our advice going forward off the experiences of the many members here, tailored to your particular situation.
Also, I'm with NYB, it would be good to see a list of what your eating, along with your vitamin regimen.
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