Do ds'ers have to wait half an hour before and afters.

[marla]

I have read with some wls people cannot eat and drink fluids together....is this the same with ds'ers and if so why?

[amydroe]

I am only 3 weeks out and I can not eat and drink together. I don't have to wait a half hour, but I don't drink close to when it am going to eat simply because there is so little room for anything in my tiny tummy. If I drink right after I eat it feels like I'm over full and it hurts.

[Girlrocker]

Apr 11, 2014 12:30:19 GMT -5 marla said:

I have read with some wls people cannot eat and drink fluids together....is this the same with ds'ers and if so why?

Hi Marla, and welcome!

As someone who has had both an RNY and now a revision to the DS - I can tell you that most of that is a 'fallacy' of the RNY. Long term, you can eat/drink with both surgeries at the same time, it just can just take awhile, and with the RNY it can take a little longer because of the pouch structure.

The main reason? Limited real estate. We get full very easily, so for example, drinking water/beverage before or with meal to 'fill up' or eat a salad to 'fill up', old diet tricks now, not great! We have to focus protein and fluid first, before getting anything else in. Over time there is a progression, both in volume and types of food you can consume and how much. So especially in the early recovery months and through a lot of the first year it might be a little more challenging, but it gets easier as time goes on.

YMMV - a very popular expression, your mileage may vary. Meaning, there are definitely patterns, parallels we all share - and then, our bodies, tolerances are different so we have to figure out our own 'formulas'. The formula is always the same - focus on protein, fluid, fats and carbs after that. How the combination works best for your own body takes trial and error to sort it out At about 10mo-1year the patterns become more clear and you start to have a better vision of the 'big picture'. And the further out you get, the more your sleeve might relax in terms of tightness/restriction - the switch is what keeps doing the work with the malabsorption and the metabolic reset.

[newyorkbitch]

You can eat and drink at the same time….but you have to balance your fluids and protein. What Sharyl said.

[goodkel]

Apr 11, 2014 12:30:19 GMT -5 marla said:

I have read with some wls people cannot eat and drink fluids together....is this the same with ds'ers and if so why?

Because DSers have a normal, if smaller, stomach with an intact pyloric valve, we do not have to be concerned about liquids flushing food out of our stomachs. The RnY bypasses the pyloric valve by creating a pouch in the upper portion of the stomach. (That is why it is frequently known as a gastric bypass.) Drinking with food in the pouch can cause that food to be flushed out of the pouch too quickly. We don't have a pouch.

If you are a newly post operative DSer, the primary concern is that you are getting in enough fluids. 64 ounces a day minimum. Some people try to eat too soon and the food doesn't leave room for adequate liquid intake. Dehyration happens quickly and can cause nausea and a trip to the ER for IV fluids.

There is no reason at all to restrict drinking before, after, or while you are eating.

Until you are healed enough to accommodate both, it is the eating that needs to not interfere with drinking.

I hope this helps you understand it.

And welcome! It is nice to see you posting.

[bboop]

Nope I can eat and drink at the same time...always have been able to. I guess I do restrict my drinking to make sure I get all my protein in...yesh, I do that.

[Taterweight]

At 8 weeks out now I drink water before I start to eat my meal. I find the water processes quickly whereas food fills my tummy and I end up having to wait a bit before I can take another sip. I'm sure after more time passes it won't be much of an issue, but this early I find it's best to drink first!

[missdee1]

I'm 4 months out. Been able to eat and drink together since one month out. Water only. It's filling and need to focus on your protein. But I can do both easily.

[Deleted]

I don't drink much when eating as it gets in the way of the food, but I do drink while eating.

[goodkel]

Apr 12, 2014 13:37:18 GMT -5 missdee1 said:

I'm 4 months out. Been able to eat and drink together since one month out. Water only. It's filling and need to focus on your protein. But I can do both easily.

I know that you probably know this, but I am putting it out there for those who don't.

Any protein that you get in the form of shakes, counts towards your liquids requirement.

[marla]

Thanks so much for the replies....your all such a huge important help to my learning as a pre op ?

[kennyk]

My NUT said I needed to wait.
Turns out I needed the liquids to get my food down.
I think the most important thing I learned from my NUT Is why when I take advice from somebody who has not had this procedure?
K

[louteg]

Apr 12, 2014 15:02:30 GMT -5 goodkel said:

Apr 12, 2014 13:37:18 GMT -5 missdee1 said:

I'm 4 months out. Been able to eat and drink together since one month out. Water only. It's filling and need to focus on your protein. But I can do both easily.

I know that you probably know this, but I am putting it out there for those who don't.

Any protein that you get in the form of shakes, counts towards your liquids requirement.

Good to know; its a struggle for me to get in 64oz of fluid a day. I was not adding the 2 20z protein coffee I drink everyday, doing this will get me closer to 64oz of fluid a day.

Love this place

[tina9999]

If I'm eating & it turns out I've reached the too much state then drink some water or whatever, I will get the foamies. Unfortunately for me, the foamie mouth seems to be the signal. If there's another one, I haven't noticed it yet. But I do drink a bit as I eat, but it's not like it was before. Before I could drink 2 or 3 diet sodas while I was eating. Now we're talking maybe 2 - 3 ounces before, during & right after eating to help wash it down, but that's it.

[missdee1]

I've be enable to eat/drink together since one month out. It's always been easy breezy for me. Now I can gulp down large amounts of water at 6 months out. Love my water!

[illinids2]

I still don't care for plain water.

I find that sometimes a drink or two helps me to get "heavy foods" down. I also try to lubricate my foods in some sort of sauce or juice from the meat, as much as I can.

[Deleted]

I prefer not to drink with my meals, as it continues to help me get more protein in by foregoing the drink. I can resume drinking usually within 20 minutes of finishing my meal.. I will drink water with lemon up until my food comes when eating out, but then nothing until i'm done eating..

[newyorkbitch]

I eat and drink together all the time. I'm over 14 years out but it has been this way for years. When you read people's responses, remember to look at how far out they are. Things change over time.

[caprice]

What NYB said. For the first couple of years, drinking would simply have taken up valuable real estate in my very small stomach. Making an already hard job of getting enough protein in -- even harder.

These days (almost 7 years out), if the server insists on bringing water, that's fine. I may or may not drink, depending on how much protein I can get down first. At home, I never automatically serve myself water with a meal. It's an afterthought. BUT, no harm comes from DSers drinking fluid with their food.

I heart my pyloric valve!