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Post by Girlrocker on Aug 20, 2013 10:45:45 GMT -5
I certainly think centralizing surgeon information is helpful and necessary for everyone. I've added notes here to this list of surgeons; perhaps the same could be done on the Surgeon Review thread, where there are changes/updates with existing vetted surgeons, or a review is posted of someone new. This way the board maintains its mission to providing unbiasted, fact-driven information?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 17:35:32 GMT -5
Um, Paul. Yes, I'll review the info, but my point is more like this: You have already planted yourself very firmly on Dr. R.'s legal radar. He reads here and he has friends here--which is his good right and I am thrilled when ANY surgeon pays attention to our forums. Bummer that few if any of them feel they can participate. But that's not the point. My point is this: You are dramatically increasing your exposure by posting this kind of stuff. You're being really stupid. While I have no clue about the actual RISK involved, if I were Dr. R., I know what *I* would be thinking when you post this stuff.
This is NOT an attack on you. (So you bitch readers who insist on reporting every post I make to him, fuck off.) It is genuine concern that you are digging yourself into a totally avoidable legal hole---not to mention how this kind of thing could further blacklist you, so to speak, with other surgeons. If I were one of those other surgeons, and I got word that you posted this kind of thing, I also know what I would do. I know what a couple of other real DS revision surgeons would do.
Fielding is never going to get anything on this site other than an "avoid at all costs" rating, just because he's a band salesman. You would be smart to delete your deleterious posts about Dr. R. and to accept the vibe of this site, even if you ARE stupid enough to go with Fielding for whatever he might be able to give you.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 17:49:34 GMT -5
I knew my surgeon (Dr. Stephen Boyce) had done revisions but I asked his office for specific information. Got this back from his office manager:
1) About how many DS surgeries has he done (not the practice but him) just over 500.
2) Complication rate? 10%
3) Where did he learn the skill to do a DS? Who was his mentor? Dr. Smith in Atlanta and thru 24 years of experience with Weight Loss surgery.
Robin said he has done revisions (lap band to DS or RNY to DS., yes both
4) About how many revisions to a DS has he done. 155
5) Where did he learn to do that revision? Self taught in private practice Dr. Boyce is currently a faculty member for the Ethicon Education Program for both DS and Revisions. He teaches courses for physicians as well as having surgeons come to our practice to learn the procedure.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 18:08:29 GMT -5
My gripe about Dr. Boyce, which is not really related to revisions but IMNSHO is dramatically related to ethics, is that he hawks a particular supplement and "food" line that is in no way adequate anywhere for DSers.
This should not disqualify him from the list but should serve as a head-up to the patient that he is not a "pure" surgeon. He has a second income stream that is NOT appropriate for all his WLS patients, and according to a lot of professional organizations and boards, this is a very big deal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 18:18:00 GMT -5
My gripe about Dr. Boyce, which is not really related to revisions but IMNSHO is dramatically related to ethics, is that he hawks a particular supplement and "food" line that is in no way adequate anywhere for DSers. This should not disqualify him from the list but should serve as a head-up to the patient that he is not a "pure" surgeon. He has a second income stream that is NOT appropriate for all his WLS patients, and according to a lot of professional organizations and boards, this is a very big deal. Mine too but in fairness to someone looking, he is an excellent cutter. AS long as you don't follow his aftercare.
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Post by nyuboi on Aug 20, 2013 23:23:56 GMT -5
(So you bitch readers who insist on reporting every post I make to him, fuck off.) EN, Is this why your last 2-3 posts were nicer? ;-) Seriously though, I am more likely to truly consider your advice now when you're not calling me an idiot and saying its not an attack on me. Believe it or not I do value your opinion. You make a very good point about other doctors. If nothing else, I should consider revising that post because of it going back to other doctors. If Roslin told Fielding I posted his malpractice suits, Fielding would probably not operate on me (even though I was defending Fielding). So yeah, I don't need to have other surgeons view me as a risk, so you make a very good point. As for Roslin's legal radar, I don't care because I didn't slander or defame his character by posting a public record list. But I don't want to piss him off to the point where he mentions it to other surgeons - so excellent point.
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Post by PrettyGirlBounce on Aug 21, 2013 16:42:03 GMT -5
(So you bitch readers who insist on reporting every post I make to him, fuck off.) EN, Is this why your last 2-3 posts were nicer? ;-) Seriously though, I am more likely to truly consider your advice now when you're not calling me an idiot and saying its not an attack on me. Believe it or not I do value your opinion. You make a very good point about other doctors. If nothing else, I should consider revising that post because of it going back to other doctors. If Roslin told Fielding I posted his malpractice suits, Fielding would probably not operate on me (even though I was defending Fielding). So yeah, I don't need to have other surgeons view me as a risk, so you make a very good point. As for Roslin's legal radar, I don't care because I didn't slander or defame his character by posting a public record list. But I don't want to piss him off to the point where he mentions it to other surgeons - so excellent point. Nyuboi - is there any possible way we can avoid this thread turning into another thread about your specific case? That would be great. There is an 8 page long thread pending that I'm sure is sufficient to obtain the redundant advice you seek ad nauseam and cover your bases - again. Good luck to you.
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Post by goodkel on Aug 21, 2013 16:48:53 GMT -5
EN, Is this why your last 2-3 posts were nicer? ;-) Seriously though, I am more likely to truly consider your advice now when you're not calling me an idiot and saying its not an attack on me. Believe it or not I do value your opinion. You make a very good point about other doctors. If nothing else, I should consider revising that post because of it going back to other doctors. If Roslin told Fielding I posted his malpractice suits, Fielding would probably not operate on me (even though I was defending Fielding). So yeah, I don't need to have other surgeons view me as a risk, so you make a very good point. As for Roslin's legal radar, I don't care because I didn't slander or defame his character by posting a public record list. But I don't want to piss him off to the point where he mentions it to other surgeons - so excellent point. Nyuboi - is there any possible way we can avoid this thread turning into another thread about your specific case? That would be great. There is an 8 page long thread pending that I'm sure is sufficient to obtain the redundant advice you seek ad nauseam and cover your bases - again. Good luck to you. Excellent point. This thread is not about personal issues. ~exalt~
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2013 17:27:03 GMT -5
Lisa as ever you nail what I am thinking but not eloquent enough to drill down to the point and put into words.
~Exalt~
Whit
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Post by Girlrocker on Aug 21, 2013 21:52:15 GMT -5
Lisa, thank you. I was going to write you nyuboi/Paul because unless you have something specific to add to the discussion here of vetted surgeons, would appreciate you keeping this conversation on your other thread or via pm. Would further appreciate removing all these legal posts as well as its really not appropriate for reasons that have been pointed out to you already.
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Post by Band to DS on Aug 21, 2013 22:08:46 GMT -5
Dr. Sudan at Duke (in NC) does lap band to DS revisions. He has published case studies in peer-reviewed journals. He *does not* do RNY to DS revisions, though.
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Post by nyuboi on Aug 22, 2013 20:05:03 GMT -5
EN, Is this why your last 2-3 posts were nicer? ;-) Seriously though, I am more likely to truly consider your advice now when you're not calling me an idiot and saying its not an attack on me. Believe it or not I do value your opinion. You make a very good point about other doctors. If nothing else, I should consider revising that post because of it going back to other doctors. If Roslin told Fielding I posted his malpractice suits, Fielding would probably not operate on me (even though I was defending Fielding). So yeah, I don't need to have other surgeons view me as a risk, so you make a very good point. As for Roslin's legal radar, I don't care because I didn't slander or defame his character by posting a public record list. But I don't want to piss him off to the point where he mentions it to other surgeons - so excellent point. Nyuboi - is there any possible way we can avoid this thread turning into another thread about your specific case? That would be great. There is an 8 page long thread pending that I'm sure is sufficient to obtain the redundant advice you seek ad nauseam and cover your bases - again. Good luck to you. My point was to post about Fielding doing revision surgery, and that how he is published as doing 80 DS's versus 80 BPD's. It was just a suggestion. When EN and someone else gave feedback about Fielding with links, I simply made a point. Perhaps I got too personal in the last one agreeing with EN, I did not mean to make it about me, however. Sorry.
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Post by Girlrocker on Aug 22, 2013 23:41:32 GMT -5
Dr. Sudan at Duke (in NC) does lap band to DS revisions. He has published case studies in peer-reviewed journals. He *does not* do RNY to DS revisions, though. Great info, thanks for sharing!
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Post by teachermomolp on Mar 21, 2014 12:37:40 GMT -5
I had my DS with Dr. Erik Wilson in Texas. I am a revision from a lapband. My case was tough due to multiple previous abdominal surgeries and Dr. Wilson was AWESOME. All of the nurses said that he is top notch and they are all going to him.
Minimally Invasive Surgeons of Texas, his practice, however, is interesting. The gals up front and Darcy are magnificent. His NUT is just that- a nut. Just smile and nod. SHe does not know enough about the real DS. She does have impressive credentials, but it's not put into practice.
Some of the other doctors in the practice don't know enough about the DS and that really upset me, too. For example, one doc I saw asked me why I was taking so many vitamins! Again, I just smiled and nodded.
Dr. Wilson took my difficult case- which had to be peer approved, by the way, it's not just his call- and I am so impressed with what he did for me. I did not, however, see him one time while I was in the hospital or even after. I can't see him for 5 more weeks. Connie, his PA, is very accessible and available so that makes up for it, in some ways. She will take as much time as you need for anything. Awesome.
Memorial Herman hospital let Dr. Wilson choose his bariatric nurses so they were ALL knowledgeable and caring with me. Loved them ALL.
Dr. Wilson has experience and has done quite a few revisions- in the 20's. Nothing like the hundreds of Dr. Keshishian, but well on his way. His practice staff needs to get educated and to have more experience with DS patients. You also have to really ask for the DS- and demonstrate you know what it is and what is required afterward.
That's my 2 cents!
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Post by shazel on May 23, 2014 16:52:18 GMT -5
I'm thrilled to hear this about Dr. Boyce as I live in north-central Alabama. Do you have any information on what insurance he accepts?
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Post by nursemelanie on May 24, 2014 2:37:22 GMT -5
I'm thrilled to hear this about Dr. Boyce as I live in north-central Alabama. Do you have any information on what insurance he accepts? I really like Dr Boyce and he has an even better staff. I don't know about the insurances but they will definitely be able to answer any questions you have. New Life Bariatrics is worth the 4 1/2 hr drive and the $1800 out of pocket fees. My VSG to DS is scheduled for July 1st! VSG to DS 7-01-14/ Dr Boyce in Knoxville /Age 40/5'8"/HW 287/CW 282
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Post by journey2thin on Oct 17, 2014 18:26:00 GMT -5
Did I miss it? What makes a surgeon "vetted"?
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