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Post by lovy19 on Jan 16, 2012 8:07:52 GMT -5
Good Morning Everyone,
I need organization badly:
I am trying to get a head start by purchasing my vitamins early, but here is where I am confused...I would like to know if the doctor gives a list of vitamins that are to be taken post op, and if so why is everyone doing things a bit differently, what I mean by this is I have noticed that some people take certain vitamins at different times while others don't. I went on Vitalady site and saw the post op 90 day Package, will this be all that I need? And if so does this mean every 90 days I must pay 300+ dollars? Or is there a cheaper package out there. I know that with having the DS takes organization but to be honest I dont know where or how to start. I am the type of person that needs the exact list of what I am to do and when, and I can stick to it without a problem. As for protein has anyone only used the shakes to get protein or does everyone use a blender and make their own. I cook a lot so to get protein by food is not a problem but I know as a new post op drinking protein is necessary.
I have also been reading where people use powder protein in their food, may I ask why? I know these questions may seem dumb but I want to make sure that I have everything in order before I start my new life. Thanking you all in advance.
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Post by shann_ds on Jan 16, 2012 9:04:12 GMT -5
The vitalady packages are all about convenience, not about price at all. You can definitely get your vite cheaper by following sales & such. I need somebody else to do the legwork for me, so I love the pre-packaged ones. Most people recommmend that you start with vitalady's regimen & then adjust according to your labs.
As for protein, I do 3 scoops daily(2 in the am & 2 in the pm). I tried cutting back because I was eating more & my hair starting falling out again so I went back to my evening shake. Some people don't like the shakes & that's why they add protein powder to food. It's all about getting in your protein in a bioavailable way.
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Post by teachmid on Jan 16, 2012 9:21:04 GMT -5
I make my protein drinks using a blender bottle not a blender. It's difficult to meet your protein requirements in the early months due to restriction and the shakes are a way to do that. The protein, vitamins and fluids are essential.
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Post by Girlrocker on Jan 16, 2012 10:01:49 GMT -5
Good info here already, and I admire your hard work in preparing, you will really reap the benefit. One thing I want to caution about is buying too much in advance, until you know what you personally can tolerate/agrees with you, especially the protein. There are many good protein shake options; there are protein bullets which are the liquid consistency of cough syrup, not the best tasting, but big bang at 50g; protein powder to add to foods; you also can puree tofu into soups, cook eggs into foods for extra protein. That we have to get in the protein is the same for all of us; how you get it in will be unique to you. For me, protein shakes remain the easiest, most efficient way for now as an early post-op. I was so excited about the protein bullets, but right now they kill me :-) So I'll have them for later use when things settle down.
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Post by lovy19 on Jan 16, 2012 10:24:24 GMT -5
The vitalady packages are all about convenience, not about price at all. You can definitely get your vite cheaper by following sales & such. I need somebody else to do the legwork for me, so I love the pre-packaged ones. Most people recommmend that you start with vitalady's regimen & then adjust according to your labs. As for protein, I do 3 scoops daily(2 in the am & 2 in the pm). I tried cutting back because I was eating more & my hair starting falling out again so I went back to my evening shake. Some people don't like the shakes & that's why they add protein powder to food. It's all about getting in your protein in a bioavailable way. Hi Shannds Ty for responding, quick question when you say 3 scoops I don't mean to sound stupid but 3 scoops of what kind of protein? And do you add it to w/e you eat? Also do the three scoops make up for our daily protein intake? |
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Post by lovy19 on Jan 16, 2012 10:26:26 GMT -5
I make my protein drinks using a blender bottle not a blender. It's difficult to meet your protein requirements in the early months due to restriction and the shakes are a way to do that. The protein, vitamins and fluids are essential. Hi Gail, what's a blender bottle? Is it easier than using a regular blender? |
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Post by Girlrocker on Jan 16, 2012 10:35:39 GMT -5
I don't use a blender either, unless I'm making a fancier shake or smoothie, I use shakers, you can get them in any store that sells tupperware or at a healthfood store. You just have to make sure the protein you buy is the quick dissolve.
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Post by lovy19 on Jan 16, 2012 10:52:06 GMT -5
Good info here already, and I admire your hard work in preparing, you will really reap the benefit. One thing I want to caution about is buying too much in advance, until you know what you personally can tolerate/agrees with you, especially the protein. There are many good protein shake options; there are protein bullets which are the liquid consistency of cough syrup, not the best tasting, but big bang at 50g; protein powder to add to foods; you also can puree tofu into soups, cook eggs into foods for extra protein. That we have to get in the protein is the same for all of us; how you get it in will be unique to you. For me, protein shakes remain the easiest, most efficient way for now as an early post-op. I was so excited about the protein bullets, but right now they kill me :-) So I'll have them for later use when things settle down. Hi Sharyl, as a new post op do you use Vitalady Vitamins, and If so do you have any problem tolerating them? I also want to know as a new post op if we cannot tolerate the Vitamins what are our options? |
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Post by shann_ds on Jan 16, 2012 10:56:44 GMT -5
You don't sound stupid at all. Just trying to figure things out. I do a 2 scoop protein coffee in the morning. I mix champion chocolate protein powder with milk (some people have trouble with milk but I never have & I like it better than cream) into a slurry and then pour hot coffee into that. At night I have another shake of milk mixed with 1 scoop of powder. It's about 80something grams of protein so that's the majority of my protein needs for the day. I shoot for 100-150 grams a day. Also, I use a blender bottle too. They're plastic cups with a wire ball that fits inside. I find they mix better without making things all foamy. Shann The vitalady packages are all about convenience, not about price at all. You can definitely get your vite cheaper by following sales & such. I need somebody else to do the legwork for me, so I love the pre-packaged ones. Most people recommmend that you start with vitalady's regimen & then adjust according to your labs. As for protein, I do 3 scoops daily(2 in the am & 2 in the pm). I tried cutting back because I was eating more & my hair starting falling out again so I went back to my evening shake. Some people don't like the shakes & that's why they add protein powder to food. It's all about getting in your protein in a bioavailable way. Hi Shannds Ty for responding, quick question when you say 3 scoops I don't mean to sound stupid but 3 scoops of what kind of protein? And do you add it to w/e you eat? Also do the three scoops make up for our daily protein intake? |
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Post by bugirll on Jan 16, 2012 11:20:32 GMT -5
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Post by Girlrocker on Jan 16, 2012 11:22:57 GMT -5
Good info here already, and I admire your hard work in preparing, you will really reap the benefit. One thing I want to caution about is buying too much in advance, until you know what you personally can tolerate/agrees with you, especially the protein. There are many good protein shake options; there are protein bullets which are the liquid consistency of cough syrup, not the best tasting, but big bang at 50g; protein powder to add to foods; you also can puree tofu into soups, cook eggs into foods for extra protein. That we have to get in the protein is the same for all of us; how you get it in will be unique to you. For me, protein shakes remain the easiest, most efficient way for now as an early post-op. I was so excited about the protein bullets, but right now they kill me :-) So I'll have them for later use when things settle down. Hi Sharyl, as a new post op do you use Vitalady Vitamins, and If so do you have any problem tolerating them? I also want to know as a new post op if we cannot tolerate the Vitamins what are our options? Hi there, I'm not using Vitalady products, but I am using the guidelines, buying on my own, better for my budget. I'm actually having a bit of a hard time with the vites/supplments right now, they give me diarrhea, so going through a trial/error period trying to figure out how to better combine, when I need them with food, etc. I think the iron is the hardest for me. I also have a history of 'nervous stomach' issues prior to my RNY, so I'm much more sensitive. I don't have any trouble actually swallowing them, and I do use chewables and sublingual in as many as possible. Try not to worry too much; your first focus will be on protein and fluids, you'll be able to get in a multi, calcium, B12 without trouble. The early post-op recovery is the hardest part, physically and psychologically, so be patient with yourself, it really does work itself out. |
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Post by keliblue on Jan 16, 2012 11:31:04 GMT -5
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Post by lovy19 on Jan 16, 2012 11:32:12 GMT -5
You don't sound stupid at all. Just trying to figure things out. I do a 2 scoop protein coffee in the morning. I mix champion chocolate protein powder with milk (some people have trouble with milk but I never have & I like it better than cream) into a slurry and then pour hot coffee into that. At night I have another shake of milk mixed with 1 scoop of powder. It's about 80something grams of protein so that's the majority of my protein needs for the day. I shoot for 100-150 grams a day. Also, I use a blender bottle too. They're plastic cups with a wire ball that fits inside. I find they mix better without making things all foamy. Shann Hi Shannds Ty for responding, quick question when you say 3 scoops I don't mean to sound stupid but 3 scoops of what kind of protein? And do you add it to w/e you eat? Also do the three scoops make up for our daily protein intake? Hi Shann, I'm lactose intolerant but the weird thing is I can eat cheese and basically everything else besides drinking the actual milk, I also use Amaretto cream in my coffee, I wonder if I will be able to tolerate that cream once i have surgery. I guess everything will be trial and error. |
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Post by lovy19 on Jan 16, 2012 11:33:26 GMT -5
I am going to use these when I get up to taking all my vits. I bought 4 so I only have to fill them once a month. Hi Megan, thanks so much For the link  . I just checked out the link and the pill organizer is perfect, my only question is if I purchased the Vitalady Pre packaged 30 day regimen, will it be broken down into weekly increments or do she give a organizer? www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000M29NZY/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details |
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Post by lovy19 on Jan 16, 2012 11:34:54 GMT -5
Hi Keli, I truly appreciate the link. Thank you so much . Wow I just went to Amazon to check it out, this s so much easier than using a blender. Quick question do It mix all the powder? Or is residu left at the bottom? |
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Post by Girlrocker on Jan 16, 2012 12:00:10 GMT -5
[/quote] Hi Shann, I'm lactose intolerant but the weird thing is I can eat cheese and basically everything else besides drinking the actual milk, I also use Amaretto cream in my coffee, I wonder if I will be able to tolerate that cream once i have surgery. I guess everything will be trial and error.[/quote]
That's how I was too, could tolerate cheese, cottage cheese but not regular milk or ice cream. I have no trouble with half and half in my coffee.
As for trial/error - yep, that's a big part of the early post-op recovery, and things will evolve, change. It's just one of those things, that until you're on the other side, there's things you won't know. It's all part of the crazy, exciting, journey. :-)
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Post by lovy19 on Jan 16, 2012 12:17:33 GMT -5
Hi Shann, I'm lactose intolerant but the weird thing is I can eat cheese and basically everything else besides drinking the actual milk, I also use Amaretto cream in my coffee, I wonder if I will be able to tolerate that cream once i have surgery. I guess everything will be trial and error.[/quote] That's how I was too, could tolerate cheese, cottage cheese but not regular milk or ice cream. I have no trouble with half and half in my coffee. As for trial/error - yep, that's a big part of the early post-op recovery, and things will evolve, change. It's just one of those things, that until you're on the other side, there's things you won't know. It's all part of the crazy, exciting, journey. :-) [/quote]Yea that's what I figured, so much for trying to get a head start. I was going to order 90 day supply of Vitamns from Vitalady, but I think I need to start with one month at a time because I don't know what I will be able tolerate. |
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Post by Girlrocker on Jan 16, 2012 12:21:09 GMT -5
You're doing great, don't be hard on yourself. I read soooo many posts on boards and it's scary how uninformed they are :-( You're prepared, trying to anticipate, and then yes the rest you'll have to discover. And you'll have the same support every step of the way. Give yourself time to just anticipate your surgery, and think about your overall recovery, it's a truly special time.
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Post by lovy19 on Jan 16, 2012 12:23:17 GMT -5
You're doing great, don't be hard on yourself. I read soooo many posts on boards and it's scary how uninformed they are :-( You're prepared, trying to anticipate, and then yes the rest you'll have to discover. And you'll have the same support every step of the way. Give yourself time to just anticipate your surgery, and think about your overall recovery, it's a truly special time. Yea I'm super excited and scared at he same time, tomorrow I will know when I am to have surgery. Thank you for all of your input . |
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Post by bugirll on Jan 16, 2012 12:45:50 GMT -5
You're doing great, don't be hard on yourself. I read soooo many posts on boards and it's scary how uninformed they are :-( You're prepared, trying to anticipate, and then yes the rest you'll have to discover. And you'll have the same support every step of the way. Give yourself time to just anticipate your surgery, and think about your overall recovery, it's a truly special time. Yea I'm super excited and scared at he same time, tomorrow I will know when I am to have surgery. Thank you for all of your input . Im so excited for you. Do post your surgery date tomorrow as soon as you know. Mine is March 19th. |
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Post by lovy19 on Jan 16, 2012 12:46:35 GMT -5
Yea I'm super excited and scared at he same time, tomorrow I will know when I am to have surgery. Thank you for all of your input . Im so excited for you. Do post your surgery date tomorrow as soon as you know. I will . |
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Post by bldeck on Jan 16, 2012 14:21:43 GMT -5
As to Vitamins, I did not start on the Vita-lady plan. BUT I DID HAVE MY LEVELS CHECKED EVERY THREE MONTHS (wanted to make sure that is understood). When I received my results back I would tweak my levels until they were good. I still find I tweak them, this last draw said I was low in Zinc and K but my B's were through the roof and I only take a multi vit for all of those, so I have added a Zinc and K1 & 2.
I find that it doesn't matter whose plan you follow as long as you are vigilant with your lab draws and checking your levels and adding or subtracting when needed you will be fine.
Betty
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Post by lovy19 on Jan 16, 2012 17:34:59 GMT -5
As to Vitamins, I did not start on the Vita-lady plan. BUT I DID HAVE MY LEVELS CHECKED EVERY THREE MONTHS (wanted to make sure that is understood). When I received my results back I would tweak my levels until they were good. I still find I tweak them, this last draw said I was low in Zinc and K but my B's were through the roof and I only take a multi vit for all of those, so I have added a Zinc and K1 & 2. I find that it doesn't matter whose plan you follow as long as you are vigilant with your lab draws and checking your levels and adding or subtracting when needed you will be fine. Betty Hi Betty if I'm understanding you correctly are you stating that you only take a multi vitamin instead of all the vitamins that everyone else takes? If so I didn't kow it was an option to just take a multi vitamin, also I won't know what to look for in my labs or how to read them to tweak, how did you learn what to look for? And I also thought labs were done every six months. Sorry for all the questions. |
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Post by patxyz on Jan 16, 2012 18:22:02 GMT -5
As to Vitamins, I did not start on the Vita-lady plan. BUT I DID HAVE MY LEVELS CHECKED EVERY THREE MONTHS (wanted to make sure that is understood). When I received my results back I would tweak my levels until they were good. I still find I tweak them, this last draw said I was low in Zinc and K but my B's were through the roof and I only take a multi vit for all of those, so I have added a Zinc and K1 & 2. I find that it doesn't matter whose plan you follow as long as you are vigilant with your lab draws and checking your levels and adding or subtracting when needed you will be fine. Betty Hi Betty if I'm understanding you correctly are you stating that you only take a multi vitamin instead of all the vitamins that everyone else takes? If so I didn't kow it was an option to just take a multi vitamin, also I won't know what to look for in my labs or how to read them to tweak, how did you learn what to look for? And I also thought labs were done every six months. Sorry for all the questions. I think she just means that she doesn't take sublingual B12 or a B complex, she gets all her B vitamins from her multivitamin, but has to take all the other non-B vitamins as well. Taking only a multivitamin is way too little. |
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Post by teachmid on Jan 16, 2012 19:29:36 GMT -5
I make my protein drinks using a blender bottle not a blender. It's difficult to meet your protein requirements in the early months due to restriction and the shakes are a way to do that. The protein, vitamins and fluids are essential. Hi Gail, what's a blender bottle? Is it easier than using a regular blender? I have found that the blender adds to much air to the shakes and makes them frothy. Google blender bottle and you'll see what they are. They're carried a number of places: GNC, Amazon, my local health food store, Bed Bath and Beyond to name a few. |
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Post by teachmid on Jan 16, 2012 19:30:38 GMT -5
Good info here already, and I admire your hard work in preparing, you will really reap the benefit. One thing I want to caution about is buying too much in advance, until you know what you personally can tolerate/agrees with you, especially the protein. There are many good protein shake options; there are protein bullets which are the liquid consistency of cough syrup, not the best tasting, but big bang at 50g; protein powder to add to foods; you also can puree tofu into soups, cook eggs into foods for extra protein. That we have to get in the protein is the same for all of us; how you get it in will be unique to you. For me, protein shakes remain the easiest, most efficient way for now as an early post-op. I was so excited about the protein bullets, but right now they kill me :-) So I'll have them for later use when things settle down. Sharyl, The bullets generally don't have good quality protein, so be careful. |
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Post by teachmid on Jan 16, 2012 19:32:47 GMT -5
The vitalady packages are all about convenience, not about price at all. You can definitely get your vite cheaper by following sales & such. I need somebody else to do the legwork for me, so I love the pre-packaged ones. Most people recommmend that you start with vitalady's regimen & then adjust according to your labs. As for protein, I do 3 scoops daily(2 in the am & 2 in the pm). I tried cutting back because I was eating more & my hair starting falling out again so I went back to my evening shake. Some people don't like the shakes & that's why they add protein powder to food. It's all about getting in your protein in a bioavailable way. Hi Shannds Ty for responding, quick question when you say 3 scoops I don't mean to sound stupid but 3 scoops of what kind of protein? And do you add it to w/e you eat? Also do the three scoops make up for our daily protein intake? I use 2 scoops of Champion stack chocolate protein powder in my shakes and hot drinks. It's a whey protein. I use a base of coffee, heavy cream. Starbuck's SF Carmel syrup, splenda and ice. |
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Post by teachmid on Jan 16, 2012 19:42:36 GMT -5
As to Vitamins, I did not start on the Vita-lady plan. BUT I DID HAVE MY LEVELS CHECKED EVERY THREE MONTHS (wanted to make sure that is understood). When I received my results back I would tweak my levels until they were good. I still find I tweak them, this last draw said I was low in Zinc and K but my B's were through the roof and I only take a multi vit for all of those, so I have added a Zinc and K1 & 2. I find that it doesn't matter whose plan you follow as long as you are vigilant with your lab draws and checking your levels and adding or subtracting when needed you will be fine. Betty Hi Betty if I'm understanding you correctly are you stating that you only take a multi vitamin instead of all the vitamins that everyone else takes? If so I didn't kow it was an option to just take a multi vitamin, also I won't know what to look for in my labs or how to read them to tweak, how did you learn what to look for? And I also thought labs were done every six months. Sorry for all the questions. If you post your labs with the normal range, the vets will help with adjusting your vitamins. Take a look at the Lab board and you can get an idea how it works. Major mom(Gina) on the bites and vites thread is a wonderful resource. Some of the dry vitamins that Vitalady offers is in higher doses than you'll generally find and is in the type (dry) that we require. I order from Vitalady but pick up my Multivits, b complex and C locally. I order my calcium from Amazon although many people use Citracal petites. I would definitely not just rely on a multivitamin as my sole source of supplementation. It's much easier to maintain your levels than to try an correct a ever deficiency. Because if our malabsorption, we can get deficient really quick. Generally labs are done every 3 months for the first year. |
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Post by Jody on Jan 16, 2012 20:00:51 GMT -5
early post op - as well as now, I try to get as many of my vitamins as chewables as I can.. of course that's not always possible. That's a personal preference as I have problems taking large pills. I take my multi, B, zinc calcium and copper as a chewable, sublingual is B12 and K. Small capsules for A, D, stool softener, and 2 prescriptions. DON'T take gel caps - they don't dissolve in our tummies (ok, not me since I'm RNY and don't have intrinsic factor) and they can get clogged up in your intestines. Keep asking questions - that's the best way to learn!!
As far as protein goes - you had good advice to wait until after surgery and don't buy too much now. Your tastes WILL change... and what you find good now, you may find totally disgusting after. I too mix my protein in my coffee - yum. A mixer bottle with wire ball you can get at GNC, or any health food store. Seen then in regular stores (Target, Walmart, etc) too. I just bought an Oster blender - 20z, smaller size that once its mixed you put a sports bottle top in and I LOVE it! Yes, the protein does fizz up... air bubbles. When I was at Vitamin World the lady said she had one she loves that didn't foam - but I didn't pay attention to her, as its not that big of a deal to me now, 3 years out.
I use pods I get from GNC for a week - they hold my vits nicely (except calcium). They probably won't be big enough for you as the DS does require more than I take.
Good luck!!
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Post by lovy19 on Jan 16, 2012 20:43:33 GMT -5
Hi Betty if I'm understanding you correctly are you stating that you only take a multi vitamin instead of all the vitamins that everyone else takes? If so I didn't kow it was an option to just take a multi vitamin, also I won't know what to look for in my labs or how to read them to tweak, how did you learn what to look for? And I also thought labs were done every six months. Sorry for all the questions. I think she just means that she doesn't take sublingual B12 or a B complex, she gets all her B vitamins from her multivitamin, but has to take all the other non-B vitamins as well. Taking only a multivitamin is way too little. Ty for clarifying that pat |
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. I just checked out the link and the pill organizer is perfect, my only question is if I purchased the Vitalady Pre packaged 30 day regimen, will it be broken down into weekly increments or do she give a organizer? 
