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Post by pktwatch on Mar 20, 2012 23:49:10 GMT -5
I have been suffering with a runny nose and the feeling that I need to sneeze every time I take a deep breath in through my nose. This has been ongoing since before Christmas. I had my DS in late September. Over a month ago I visited a otolaryngologists after a couple of visits to my PCP. He took a look and ordered a CT scan of my sinuous. Today I went back and he says everything looks great in the scan and suspects that I have allergies. I told him about having the DS surgery and that I was taking whey protein almost daily and wondered if it could be a reaction to that. He said that almost anything is possible and wants me to have the allergy tests. He asked that I talk to the Dr doing the tests about my concern about the protein, so has anyone had symptoms like this for protein, vitamins or any other changes that they made after the DS? There is not a lot of red watering eyes, or itching, just the runny nose and sneezing.
This is most likley not even related related to anything about the DS at all but it all started way before the normal spring allergies that people get. I never had those problems in the past and hope to get them taken care of so I don't suffer all the time like some people that I have met.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2012 6:01:52 GMT -5
Where I live everything is blooming early and everyone is suffering. Could just be that.
Runny nose and sneezing is also the first sign for most people of eating too much, too soon.
Just a few thoughts.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2012 8:06:11 GMT -5
I still would bet it's related to exposure to stuff in the flooring you were pulling up. Have you considered seeing an allergist for testing?
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Post by pktwatch on Mar 21, 2012 8:53:22 GMT -5
I still would bet it's related to exposure to stuff in the flooring you were pulling up. Have you considered seeing an allergist for testing? It started before I pulled the old carpet up and just keeps going. Yes as soon as I get an appointment I go in to a allergist. I just remembered that years ago when we got a inside dog i started suffering a little with these symtoms, not as bad as not but along the same lines. I started taking Zyrtec and it fixed my issue. I have been taking Zyrtec every since. After this epsode my Dr put me on 2 nose sprays and I switched to Allegra thinking maybe I am resistant to the Zyrtec, it made no difference..........
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Post by sheanie on Mar 21, 2012 9:37:29 GMT -5
I've had nasal allergies all my life. They have changed, too. As a teen, I was allergic to Timothy Grass (hay) and cats. As a young adult, I had outgrown my cat allergy (having lived with them for over 25 years), but kept the hay fever allergy. I also developed a nasty household mold, dust and dust mite allergy. Now at age 52, I have outgrown all my allergies except outdoor leaf mold.
My advice to you is to get thee to a very good allergist and submit to the back-grid of allergy testing. Your allergies have morphed and changed. You are now allergic to something else, and only testing will reveal the culprit.
Currently, my allergies are totally under control with Allavert (pill), Astelin (spray, only in summer as needed), and Singulair (pill, only in summer and fall, when I garden). I also have gotten my asthma totally under control and am inhaler-free now for 7 years. I had been visiting the ER once or twice a year for breathing treatments before that.
Personally, my experience with whey allergy was diahrrea. Something you're eating (IMHO) will NOT make your sinuses and nose itch. It will give you gastric upset. But I'm not a doctor.
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Post by sheanie on Mar 21, 2012 9:38:14 GMT -5
And, yes, you could be resistant to Zyrtec. Eventually whatever you're using will become ineffective. Again, IMHO.
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Post by foofy on Mar 21, 2012 10:45:46 GMT -5
It could DEFINITELY be a dairy allergy. I had a similar problem, suffered with "seasonal allergies" for many years that all just went away when I eliminated dairy. You are using whey protein which is an isolated protein, so you're bombarding your body with a specific allergen in it's most concentrated form.
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Post by pktwatch on Mar 21, 2012 11:41:04 GMT -5
It could DEFINITELY be a dairy allergy. I had a similar problem, suffered with "seasonal allergies" for many years that all just went away when I eliminated dairy. You are using whey protein which is an isolated protein, so you're bombarding your body with a specific allergen in it's most concentrated form. Would you know how long that it will take to clear up if I stop taking the whey? I am willing to try the elimination diet as I just found out that my ins will not pay for the allergy tests.
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Post by RedSkittles on Mar 21, 2012 12:09:50 GMT -5
Try every over the counter allergy med first. Allllll the good ones are available OTC now so try them all out to see if any of them work. If THAT doesn't work, it's possible that you need a steroid like Flonase. I think seasonal allergies could still be the culprit. Different things peak at different times, I'm sure it's that way all around the country so there could be lots of different pollens that might be bugging you. I don't know much about food allergies causing seasonal allergy symptoms, but I do suppose it's worth investigating by doing an elimination diet. Keep visiting the doctor after you try all this stuff. My mom suffered from really bad unexplained allergies one year--tons of runny noses and sneezing. Allergy tests didn't help because they said she wasn't allergic to anything. The right cocktail of meds and inhalers helped her out a lot. You just have to be a pest sometimes
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Post by pktwatch on Mar 21, 2012 12:26:00 GMT -5
Thanks, I am taking Flonase and Patanase + took Zyrtec for years and switched to Allrega a couple of weeks ago. The Dr had me on z pac twice. So how long do I need to elimate a food before anything can clear up if it is that food?
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Post by valgroce on Mar 21, 2012 14:30:13 GMT -5
I can tell you that all allergies are popping up early around our area of the country with the mild winter we've had. I started taking Allegra a month ago to keep things under control and its working just fine for me. It took a couple weeks to get into my system.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2012 18:33:27 GMT -5
It could DEFINITELY be a dairy allergy. I had a similar problem, suffered with "seasonal allergies" for many years that all just went away when I eliminated dairy. You are using whey protein which is an isolated protein, so you're bombarding your body with a specific allergen in it's most concentrated form. Would you know how long that it will take to clear up if I stop taking the whey? I am willing to try the elimination diet as I just found out that my ins will not pay for the allergy tests. Wait. Stop. You NEED YOUR PROTEIN. There are oodles and oodles of allergy meds on the market. Try some more of them before you eliminate a major source of your protein, unless you are actually able to consume MORE than 100 grams of protein every single day, routinely and easily, from food. An elimination diet would mean stopping every single source of anything even remotely dairy, not just your whey. As in really read your labels on everything. Even then, and even IF your symptoms improved, you would be finding a correlation, not a causation. This is not necessarily all THAT important, but I harp on it because we do this to ourselves all the time and base all kinds of self diagnosing on it. (I'm just as guilty of it as anyone else, never fear.)
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Post by honeybadger11 on Mar 21, 2012 19:23:29 GMT -5
If you are going to come off your whey protein i would recommend getting an alternative first like some kind of egg protein powder. And i would definitely give it a week or two to completely rule it out. You may have to come off all dairy to be complete accurate in your findings.
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Post by Sandra C. on Mar 21, 2012 22:03:47 GMT -5
I thought I had a milk allergy. The allergist gave me the grid back test. Came up very positive for egg , shrimp, lobster, tuna, pecans, hazelnuts( no more mixed nuts), allergies. Milk and all other meats were fine. Allergist had me use my least allergenic foods for the start of the elimination diet- chicken breast and green beans. 3 days to clear my system, then add one food at a time,journal the effects, and return to the clearing food- chicken and green beans. The first 3 days I lost 6 lbs, must have been swelling from allergy foods. Chicken breast has lots of protein, I didn't need the shakes to reach 120g protein.
I have sneezed, and had a runny nose a bit. Happens when I eat too much. Nsaids can take down the sinus swelling to help drainage, and nose breathing.
If you do an elimination diet, your clearing foods may be different. Mine were chosen from the results of my allergy test.
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Post by pktwatch on Mar 21, 2012 22:23:39 GMT -5
I need to add that IF I stop taking the whey protein I will use another source of protein, not just do without it.
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Post by pktwatch on Mar 24, 2012 8:37:41 GMT -5
Well I found that my ins does not pay for allergy testing. In doing some research I found this at Livestrong.com: Developing sinus congestion after consuming whey protein isolate may be a sign of a minor allergic reaction. Whey protein isolate is commonly sold as a dietary supplement intended to increase your daily intake of protein for bodybuilding and weight management. Whey protein isolate is made from cow's milk and will trigger an allergic reaction if you have a milk allergy. Sinus congestion is a common symptom of a minor milk allergy.
Milk Protein Allergy Milk contains 80 percent casein proteins and 20 percent whey proteins, according to KidsHealth.org. Both proteins are used to increase daily protein intake, but whey is considered the better of the two, according to the Whey Protein Institute. If you have an allergy to milk you are either allergic to one or both of the proteins. Even if you have a diagnosis that you're allergic to casein proteins, a small amount of casein may remain in the whey protein isolate. It is not advisable to use whey protein if you have been diagnosed with a milk allergy. Alternative proteins, such as soy protein powders, are available for people with a milk allergy.
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Cause What happens when you ingest why protein isolate, if you're allergic to the substance, is that your immune system identifies the protein as a dangerous intruder and reacts by attacking the proteins with immunoglobulin E, or IgE, antibodies. IgE antibodies trigger a chemical chain reaction throughout the body, causing histamine levels to rise in soft tissues, such as the sinuses, according to the American Academy of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology. When histamine levels increase in your nasal tissue, the sinuses become inflamed and swollen, restricting your ability to breath and discharge mucus through your nostrils. This temporary blockage is what causes you to feel congested and unable to breath normally.
Read more: www.livestrong.com/article/519269-can-whey-protein-isolate-cause-sinus-problems/#ixzz1q2agM27cI stopped the whey protein yesterday, it can take 2 to 3weeks to find out is this is the clupret, in the mean time i will try soy or egg based proteins. From what I have read most people that do have milk allergies after their DS and still eat cheese, cottage cheese and other dairy based products, they can not drink milk. So for now it is no mike and no whey protein. Another thing, I mowed the yard a couple of days ago. The weather has been extra warm and we have spent a lot of time outside. None of this made my symptoms any worse + the fact that this started way back before Christmas leads me to believe that it IS NOT seasonal allergies.
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Post by pktwatch on Apr 21, 2012 8:45:38 GMT -5
After suffering for a while with these allergies I tried going all this week without dairy products but I am sure some sneaked in there.......I do feel better and not as congested. I have been taking Soy Protein with soy milk, eating more eggs (and even more bacon). I MISS CHEESE!! However on the good side I lost 10 pounds this week, the most I have lost in a week since very early out!
I am still not completely clear and will go another week staying off as much dairy as i can. After that I will decide if it is the culprit or if I need to try something else. After September I go on Medicare and will get the allergy testing!
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Post by highlyblessed on Apr 21, 2012 8:58:22 GMT -5
Maybe you're not getting in all your fluids and you're dehydrated. In Water: for Health, for Healing, for Life, author Dr. Batmanghelidj writes: "Histamine is an important neurotransmitter that primarily regulates thirst mechanism for increased water intake. It also establishes a system of water rationing for the available water in the drought-stricken body."
When the body is dehydrated, histamine production increases significantly. Histamine's primary job is to make sure that the available water in the body is preserved for the most vital functions. Thus, increased histamine is not the problem; it's one of the body's ingenious adaptations for survival.
In addition, the process of drought management in the body creates a long chain of events that affects numerous functions in the body, including the suppression of antibody production. This means that the body will simply not be as well equipped to deal with unhealthy invaders, such as pollen and other antigens.
Thus, when pollen season is in full swing, our eyes are invaded with the pollen agents, and the dehydrated body lacks the antibodies to adequately neutralize the pollen. Thus, the tear-producing glands of the eyes work overtime to wash the pollen away from the delicate membranes.
The histamine reaction and suppression of antibodies are just two of the many ways the body adapts to dehydration. Obviously, this is not to say that dehydration is the only cause of allergies, but sometimes it is the primary cause.
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Post by Shawnie (kouklamonkey) on Apr 21, 2012 9:06:01 GMT -5
You're not alone PktWatch. My friend has a dairy allergy and the only thing she notices is that her nose runs and sneezes when she consumes dairy products. She has zero gastro issues, only sinus issues. It's strange but that's how she reacts to dairy products.
I would really miss cheese too! If dairy is causing your problems, it could be that changing your shakes is all you need to do. Maybe having cheese won't effect you as much once you have eliminated the whey shakes.
CONGRATS ON THE TEN LBS!!!
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Post by pktwatch on Apr 21, 2012 13:45:21 GMT -5
I am fairly sure that I am not dehydrated. I got in 64 oz very early out and am now drinking at lease 100 oz a day. Last Sunday after a couple of days off of dairy our son came out, we played cards and ate a cheese ball and I started in with the sneezing and runny nose all over again! I will try to get as cleared up as I can get and then introduce some hard cheese and see what it brings on.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2012 6:52:15 GMT -5
You can get soy or rice cheese. My sister doesn't eat dairy and she lives one those. Good luck.
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Post by Shawnie (kouklamonkey) on Apr 22, 2012 8:55:51 GMT -5
You can get soy or rice cheese. My sister doesn't eat dairy and she lives one those. Good luck. I've also tried an almond cheese that was really really good but very hard to find. It was "pepper jack" and truly delicious. I'm not sure about melting these non-dairy cheeses but there are some great dairy alternatives out there.
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Post by pktwatch on Apr 22, 2012 23:17:52 GMT -5
You can get soy or rice cheese. My sister doesn't eat dairy and she lives one those. Good luck. Thanks, I had no idea that these were available and will be looking for them.
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Post by pktwatch on Apr 23, 2012 8:55:59 GMT -5
I called my otolaryngologists this morning and requested a prescription for Atrovent Nasal Spray. I am still not sure what is causing my runny nose (that is my main complaint) I have cut out dairy although I do forget and get some in my diet at times. I am still sneezing and have a runny nose and it happens a lot after eating. After reading more It may be caused my my Vagus Nerve. Atrovent is supposed to stop a runny nose no matter what the cause..........I still plan on getting the allergy test but need to wait until my Medicare kicks in.
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Post by angelcake on Apr 23, 2012 13:00:24 GMT -5
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